Netjet billboard @ TEB

[Gulfstream 200]

Hey El Chup:


If you could have made 120K more at Citation Shares or 60K more as a bus driver why did you sign up at Netjets?


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[El Chupacabra]

I have an idea. Lets everybody (VPs to office folks) work for NJA SIC pay. So Uncle Scrooge and Mr Marley can make their 7% profit.

 

[El Chupacabra]

Hey El Chup:


If you could have made 120K more at Citation Shares or 60K more as a bus driver why did you sign up at Netjets?


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If I knew it would take this long to get the contract done I would have left. We have always seemed to be 6 months away from "Kick ass" pay for years now. Yes I could have made the $120K at CS I turned down the offer over 5 years ago. So only now that I make almost as much as their starting pay it does not make sense to go there. I am one month away from exceeding that pay by a couple thousand.

 

[I-R-DXR]

This claim by the company only goes to demonstrate how low the Pilot pay is. If they can give annual payraises that large yet even after that large raise , the average Captains pay at NJA would need to be RAISED an additional 33% just to equal the STARTING pay at one of our competitors Citation Shares.

Remember he said:

Don't get me wrong - fair pay for crews is what everyone wants.

The statement in question was how much year was the payraise you get? Did your pay raise stop when the contract became ammendable?


Also his statement:

Economics 101: The Employer is the risk-taker. Employees exist to serve the needs of the company, not the other way around.

If that hurts, then either someone misled you or your expectations got distorted along the way.

I took my job because they made me an offer I could accept and support my family with. You MUST had done the same. This whole union-pilot-strike ordeal seems as if you took a job that paid a low wage then with your union as a tool are now forcing the company to pay a wage it does not want to. (or maybe cant)

I understand you folks want more pay - I want a happy crew to work with (believe me I do).

Am I the only one who sees it in this way or am I wrong?

If all the crews on NJ would quit tomorrow would a slew of crews take the job for the same pay? Honest question here guys cause if the answer is yes - That is where your trouble lies.

 

[I-R-DXR]

El Chup-

Sorry for your loss but its seems you took a chance and took the job based off promises.

 

[I-R-DXR]

NJA CPT

Wonder what was wrong with the NBAA and fractional industry salary info they already had?

Can you please enlighten me.

By saying NBAA pay does that mean the same as Corporate Flight Department pay?

Thanks

 

[h25b]

If I knew it would take this long to get the contract done I would have left. We have always seemed to be 6 months away from "Kick ass" pay for years now. Yes I could have made the $120K at CS I turned down the offer over 5 years ago. So only now that I make almost as much as their starting pay it does not make sense to go there. I am one month away from exceeding that pay by a couple thousand.

This is the most common mistake made by pilots in terms of career planning. A wise man told me once NEVER to stick it out somewhere hoping things will change for the better. I fell victim to this one and stayed somewhere way to long while turning down other offers. No such thing as loyalty anymore (either way)...

Do what is best FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, don't dilute yourself in to thinking that things are going to improve that dramatically even after you get your contract. Typically the chest thumping ultra-pro-union types like "Chup" will be just as militant after the contract as they were just before. It'll just be about some other issue. Doesn't matter anyway, he'll probably never go anywhere else anyway.

 

[x402]

As long as we're throwing out flame bait.


Where's my release?

Sorry, dispatch is busy surfing the web.

 

[I-R-DXR]

As long as we're throwing out flame bait.


Where's my release?

Sorry, dispatch is busy surfing the web.

LOL

Sorry guys but the flightinfo board has the "Red Screen of Death". Nogo at NJ.

 

[I-R-DXR]

Or what about my standard answer:



"Have you checked the fax machine for paper sir"


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