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More chaff and disrespect....:rolleyes: that's why I support board members' right to use a filtering mechanism.

I provide basic information that establishes my credibility and helps readers understand my viewpoint. My husband is a pilot (6yr PIC) at NJA and is a Union volunteer. Many of the pilots who post here also give their position and say who they fly for. Those who suspiciously refuse to provide the basic information commonly shared here are the ones that are hiding...their true agenda.

Back to choosing options for the Acadia. What a difference professional compensation makes to a family's well-being and lifestyle.
 
netjetwife said:
I provide basic information that establishes my credibility and helps readers understand my viewpoint. My husband is a pilot (6yr PIC) at NJA and is a Union volunteer. Many of the pilots who post here also give their position and say who they fly for. Those who suspiciously refuse to provide the basic information commonly shared here are the ones that are hiding...their true agenda.
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If you commonly shared your personal work information it would say you worked at [ :confused: ] and have done [ :confused: ] in the industry.

Those blanks are true, aren't they? You have no common information to share, do you? Your husband doesn't count.

Stated many times over, but never again: Over two decades in the industry, most of it in management (not now). Currently working international Part 121. Experience from puddle piston commuter to legacy, including fractional. Laid off by union activity twice. Found peace in non-union carrier.

You are missing something in your description NJW. That is the part about working in the industry. You have no experience and can't relate, yet you continued to post like you do. You wouldn't know 8900.10 if it fell out of the sky and thumped you on the head.

Your husband is a paid volunteer, thus an employee for the union while NJA pays 100% for his health, vacation, sick days and taxes while he flies a partial schedule. Union "volunteers" always milk it for all it's worth, and he's no exception.

This thread should be discussing those 70 pilots that got sucked into the abyss by the turmoil created by the union at Flight Options, it's not about you. :crying:
 
I keep having these lovely visions of how wonderful Flightinfo could be if you people would stop feeding the trolls. :smash:
 
This message is hidden because B19 Flyer is on your ignore list.

IF the fudspinner ever posts something genuinely supportive about the Options pilots that were fired for bogus reasons you guys that still read his posts be sure to let me know please. I'd hate to miss a miracle...;)

When shopping for a new family vehicle the difference between NJA professional wages and the salary of an underpaid Options pilot really stands out. I'm looking at a 2008 Acadia SLT 2. We can even afford to get some extras. If my husband worked at Options we couldn't afford a new vehicle at all. That is wrong! Professional pilots and their families should be able to buy reliable, comfortable transportation.

You guys look at what you're driving. If it's old and has lots of miles that is a very tangible snapshot of how far behind your peers you are....:mad: You guys are gone too long to leave your wives and kids behind driving a clunker. I know from personal experience the sacrifices frac families make for the pilots to fly. Our frac families deserve decent vehicles. The kind the families of other professionals take for granted. The kind the families of managers drive. You know that management can afford to take care of their families.

The FLOPS didn't stop at short-changing pilots' families. They have now taken food off the tables of those they decided to use as pawns in their war against the Options pilots. It's disgusting! I can shop for a new vehicle but those wives have to wonder how the bills are going to be paid. Still, if I were them I'd rather be married to a pilot with guts than to a back-stabbing upper manager with no integrity.
 
Grumpy, haven't you noticed the trolls always bring their own food? ;)
They hate truth and reality so they live on a diet of slimy FUD and thrive on garbage.
 
NJW,

Nothing new. He's just throwing out FUD and lies about your husband, who is an honorable man. The people who hired him should get a bonus for getting such a caring on our payroll.

He knows nothing about what you and your husband do for NetJets, and is obviously jealous of the respect you two earned at our company.
 
B19 Flyer said:
If you commonly shared your personal work information it would say you worked at [ :confused: ] and have done [ :confused: ] in the industry.

Those blanks are true, aren't they? You have no common information to share, do you? Your husband doesn't count.

Stated many times over, but never again: Over two decades in the industry, most of it in management (not now). Currently working international Part 121. Experience from puddle piston commuter to legacy, including fractional. Laid off by union activity twice. Found peace in non-union carrier.

You are missing something in your description NJW. That is the part about working in the industry. You have no experience and can't relate, yet you continued to post like you do. You wouldn't know 8900.10 if it fell out of the sky and thumped you on the head.

Your husband is a paid volunteer, thus an employee for the union while NJA pays 100% for his health, vacation, sick days and taxes while he flies a partial schedule. Union "volunteers" always milk it for all it's worth, and he's no exception.

This thread should be discussing those 70 pilots that got sucked into the abyss by the turmoil created by the union at Flight Options, it's not about you. :crying:
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dude....stfu already....

this forum is for fractionals.......go to the 121 thread. Im sure they'll love your useless ass their too....haha
 
It won't go away until 1108 and FLOPS get a contract. Just like Family Guy and NetJets.

Almost as soon as we got our 2005 CBA he was gone.
 
netjetwife said:
When shopping for a new family vehicle the difference between NJA professional wages and the salary of an underpaid Options pilot really stands out. I'm looking at a 2008 Acadia SLT 2. We can even afford to get some extras. If my husband worked at Options we couldn't afford a new vehicle at all. That is wrong!
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As the wife of a retired military pilot, your family income is only derived from NJA wages, right? :rolleyes:
 
Unfortunately, Grumpy, the flying fisch...:p is recalling the situation correctly. Still, for you, I will try to refrain from commenting on the slimy, reeking FUD the troll is LUG-ing onto the board. (LUG = Lies, Unfounded accusations, and Garbage)

Thanks for the recognition, Fisch. I'm glad that pilots have good SA so I don't have to worry about you guys slipping in the FUD and falling into a pile of troll dung. BTW, flying fish are awesome. We saw them in the Red Sea when we were stationed in Egypt.

We're going to visit CMH later this month and I'm looking forward to meeting NJA folks--Union and Company. I hope there's a Monday night meeting while we're there. Do y'all think I should wear my black boots so that those who post here will know me on sight...;) :p

GF, you've been out in that hot Texas sun too long today...:eek: But now that you mention it...FamilyGuy was better. At least he didn't stalk female posters.
 
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AeroBoy said:
B19,

How about you man up and tell everyone that I've got you pegged? You still refuse to answer my question about the fractional advisory board. Am I going to be the one that has to out you, or will you do it voluntarily?

Ignoring me will only make the pain worse when it comes time to name names.
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I think b19 has you on ignore!:laugh:
 
This place is starting to feel like Starbucks. I don't speak the language there and I'm starting to not speak the language here.

FUD? LUG? WTF?
 
Waka,

I know the history. When Raytheon basically was forced to buy it, and then got rid of Hawker and they would not take Options too, it was dead. Dead companies do the things you talk about. Whether the latest suitor can administer CPR to Options remains to be seen. It has been on life support for quite a while.
 
glasspilot said:
This place is starting to feel like Starbucks. I don't speak the language there and I'm starting to not speak the language here.

FUD? LUG? WTF?
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Don't get your feathers...fur, rather...all ruffled. ;) Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) is pushed non-stop by union busting firms like Ford and Harrison. F&H have earned their alias--Fud and Harassment. LUG is brand new. That's why I posted a key. It's essentially just another version of the typical FUD so you don't have to add it to your vocabulary. Sorry for the confusion.

The Options pilots are currently being bombarded by FUD so you might as well learn all you can about it. I also learned about FUD before I knew what it stood for. When a group is at the bargaining table they hear it a lot. And when you learn the definition you see it easily fits the situation.
 
CA1900 said:
He's still reading. Say "Hi"!
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While Grumpy isn't looking I'll just peek under FG's rock....hi there.... I'm not feeding him. I'm just looking. Some trolls can be tamed you know. ;)

But if Grumpy shows up posting a hammer I'm gonna say that you and Gunfyter started it...:p
 

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