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My Rant on the STUPID & SPINELESS Flight Options Management!

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Does anyone (besides the posters) actually read each and every boring a$$ post in this thread line by line? You guys will do this for the rest of your careers and all of a sudden you'll have 30 years of nothing to show for it but bitterness. "The fight", "stand together", "FUD", "rising tide lifts all boats", SHEESH! No i'm not mgmt, yes I voted for the union at flops. But $hit, after several yrs of crap I'm at peace doing something else and have moved on. Just an observation. Alot of my friends including **** lost their jobs a couple weeks ago. Some of you MUST have other ideas you can do with your lives, no?
 
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I'll share the info that I have to help answer LF's question. Those who are bored need not read...;)

Regarding my posts, my husband and I are both regularly told by pilots (who read but seldom post) that they enjoy them. (Thanks for the feedback, guys!) It sounds like they follow the posting here. I didn't ask how much they read as that is a personal choice.

LF's statement that others will only have bitterness to show for standing together and fighting back is way off-base. Things are much better at NJA now. Other frac pilots are also pleased by improvements in the industry. The Options pilots are negotiating for a badly needed contract. Their bitterness stems from management's mistreatment not their valid expectation that a rising tide would lift their boat. They've had to watch that happen over and over --twice each at NJA and CS. Didn't Flex get a raise, too? That's why they're bitter--not because they choose to fight for the industry standard. I'm glad they are. The FLOP's out of control race to the bottom has got to be stopped.

It seems LF's decision to move on from FltOps was a good one for him, but it doesn't mean that those who stayed behind could or would choose to do the same. Those who find posts "boring" can just quietly skip them. That would be a lot fairer than misapplying gloomy predictions and indirectly insulting those choosing to spend their time posting and/or reading here. As to LF's suggestion that you guys do something else with your lives career-wise, I think that's a personal decision best left to you and your family. I wish you all the best.

DL, you have my sympathy, shared disgust, and best wishes for a favorable outcome. Good Luck! NJW
 
Does anyone (besides the posters) actually read each and every boring a$$ post in this thread line by line? You guys will do this for the rest of your careers and all of a sudden you'll have 30 years of nothing to show for it but bitterness. "The fight", "stand together", "FUD", "rising tide lifts all boats", SHEESH! No i'm not mgmt, yes I voted for the union at flops. But $hit, after several yrs of crap I'm at peace doing something else and have moved on. Just an observation. Alot of my friends including "Dimeline" lost their jobs a couple weeks ago. Some of you MUST have other ideas you can do with your lives, no?

As I told someone else....maybe it was you. Some of us choose to fight for what is right while others just lay back and take it. Sure, move on but, don't just let FLOPS management get away with anything they want. There is nothing wrong with looking to one's own future. However, that doesn't mean that you cannot participate in suing their evil asses in the mean time.

Quote for you;

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those *cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt
*underline added by me
 
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Waka, excellent quote! Thanks for sharing it. Your words were good, too...:)
 
As I told someone else....maybe it was you. Some of us choose to fight for what is right while others just lay back and take it. Sure, move on but, don't just let FLOPS management get away with anything they want. There is nothing wrong with looking to one's own future. However, that doesn't mean that you cannot participate in suing their evil asses in the mean time.

Quote for you;

*underline added by me

Sorry all. Next time I'll just turn the station. Flops drove me nuts. Sorry I took it out on my FI family! Should have worked out BEFORE I posted...:0
 
Now that's a nice post, LF! I particularly liked the phrase "FI family".
To me, being in an online community is the best part of posting here.
Regards,
NJW
 
Now that's a nice post, LF! I particularly liked the phrase "FI family".
To me, being in an online community is the best part of posting here.
Regards,
NJW

Thankfully that community has differing opinions.

I still wonder how fair it is that your husband (or any union "volunteer" for that matter) gets 100% of his benefits paid by NJ, yet only flies a partial schedule because he is conducting union business when he was hired as a flying pilot.

As you claim you are all about fairness in this community as you support the union way of life.

Please explain the fairness in that for Mr. Buffett?

It's funny how none of the union supporters will touch that one. I guess it hits too close to home, eh?
 
Thankfully that community has differing opinions.

I still wonder how fair it is that your husband (or any union "volunteer" for that matter) gets 100% of his benefits paid by NJ, yet only flies a partial schedule because he is conducting union business when he was hired as a flying pilot.

As you claim you are all about fairness in this community as you support the union way of life.

Please explain the fairness in that for Mr. Buffett?

It's funny how none of the union supporters will touch that one. I guess it hits too close to home, eh?


ill touch it....its because if it wasnt for the "union business" then managent types who couldnt cut it in the real world (like you) would $hit all over him. Then the only people who really suffer are his children.......who you don't care about.

this thread is now closed as well.....

cya
 

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