My Rant on the STUPID & SPINELESS Flight Options Management!

[fischman]

You never answered dime line's question.

Kind of like B19?

Give me a dollar amount.

What should a FLOPS pilot earn?

 

[brokeflyer]

At some point, there is a certain amount of money dedicated to fuel, maintenance and yes... labor.

Included in that labor number are insurance, SSI taxes, vacation, etc. that costs the company as much as 75 cents for every dollar of payroll.

(So you can take your wages, multiply them by 1.75 and come out to about what the amount is actually being paid for by the company.)

No matter how you slice it, the value of anything is what somebody is willing to pay for it. If you are not happy with what you are making, you have the right to vote with your feet and find a company willing to pay you what you are worth.

If you can't find anybody willing to pay you that number, then you've already found what you are worth.

Take responsiblity for your own career. Placing your career in the hands of others like 1108 is foolhardy.

calm down Bill er i mean b19.....

 

[HiSpeedFlyer]

At some point, there is a certain amount of money dedicated to fuel, maintenance and yes... labor.

Pause...then...
Take responsiblity for your own career. Placing your career in the hands of others like 1108 is foolhardy.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!! You Fraud!!

(I just had a Flight info vacation...I had to work hard for my money...I apologize in advance for my tardiness and abscence from this board)

B, you are an ignorant Sunnuvabittch....
you are a fraud, ignoramus, and the most pathetic example of a F & H lackey I have ever seen...
My dealing with you as an intelligent human being ceases at this moment forward...your credibility is shot and your words are nothing but mindless drabble. Your responses are canned and so sterile they are boring.....I tried to converse with you as an equal but you are so warped and misguided that no words will turn you from "the Dark Side"and see the truth and reality exposed on this board.
Flops may sink, but they may swim ( and God only knows I want those guys to secure their future and ( Gasp) be sucessful!....)....and 1108 gave that pilot group guidance, and most importantly, Dignity.
Dignity, B....DIGNITY!!!!! =Something you will never have because of your makeup... your defense is only empty words, insiunuations, and blind hatred against a group of pilots who want to control their destiny..and most of all MAKE THEIR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT A SUCCESFULL STORY OF GOOD OL' FASHIONED AMERICAN FORTITUDE AND DESIRE.
But what do you know about this, you bleepin' fraud... Cease and desist, and get back in yer hole.



Wow...he gets me torqued up....I guess I should go back to hibernating from this board... B might make my ego shink or get me angry and forget all of my anger management lessons....:angryfire

 

[HiSpeedFlyer]

Oh yeah, BTW, B19, I'm putting an offer on a piece of property this week I want to build my families dream house on this week...something I wouldnt have been able to do a year ago if I had let my elected leaders sit on their haunches and let the company do their thing and not present the pilot group the IBB.... Win Win negotiating...remember?
We both worked together and continue a strong symbiotic relationship......y'know? Oops, I'm sorry, you cannot see that throught your blinders.

..tah tah, sweetie, ...and I will eagerly await your fetid response, as pathetic as it may be.

 

[netjetwife]

HSF, I'm happy for your family to have that chance. It sounds exciting; do keep me posted.

All of the frac pilots are professionals and should be able to afford the same basics of life (safe, comfortable housing and vehicles, savings, college funds for their kids, etc) that other professionals take for granted.

Responsible managers plan on paying the going rate for other business costs and pilot wages should be no different. Smart CEOs motivate their workforce and treat them with respect. Paying professionals like they're unskilled labor is exploitation in keeping with Sheeringa's arrogance and appalling lack of integrity.

 

[imacdog]

At some point, there is a certain amount of money dedicated to fuel, maintenance and yes... labor.

Don't forget paying your union busting firm, B. How much of a raise could each pilot get if Flight Options stopped paying you to post on these forums?

 

[netjetwife]

Mac, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the FLOPS have already wasted enough to pay the pilotgroup a decent signing bonus...
Consultants like the fudspinner are taking money from the Options pilots and their families while spewing hypocritical garbage...

UNION BUSTING LAW FIRMS ARE LEECHES! LEVITT WAS SO DISGUSTED AT WHAT HE HAD DONE THAT HE WROTE A BOOK CONFESSING ALL. READ AND LEARN....CONFESSIONS OF A UNION BUSTER

 

[FLSTCI]

At some point, there is a certain amount of money dedicated to fuel, maintenance and yes... labor.

Included in that labor number are insurance, SSI taxes, vacation, etc. that costs the company as much as 75 cents for every dollar of payroll.

(So you can take your wages, multiply them by 1.75 and come out to about what the amount is actually being paid for by the company.)

Well...considering that every employer has these additional expenses, including them without doing the same thing with everyone else's compensation in an industry-wide comparison doesn't exactly keep the playing field level, does it?

 

[B19 Flyer]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!! You Fraud!!

(I just had a Flight info vacation...I had to work hard for my money...I apologize in advance for my tardiness and abscence from this board)

B, you are an ignorant Sunnuvabittch....
you are a fraud, ignoramus, and the most pathetic example of a F & H lackey I have ever seen...
My dealing with you as an intelligent human being ceases at this moment forward...your credibility is shot and your words are nothing but mindless drabble. Your responses are canned and so sterile they are boring.....I tried to converse with you as an equal but you are so warped and misguided that no words will turn you from "the Dark Side"and see the truth and reality exposed on this board.
Flops may sink, but they may swim ( and God only knows I want those guys to secure their future and ( Gasp) be sucessful!....)....and 1108 gave that pilot group guidance, and most importantly, Dignity.
Dignity, B....DIGNITY!!!!! =Something you will never have because of your makeup... your defense is only empty words, insiunuations, and blind hatred against a group of pilots who want to control their destiny..and most of all MAKE THEIR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT A SUCCESFULL STORY OF GOOD OL' FASHIONED AMERICAN FORTITUDE AND DESIRE.
But what do you know about this, you bleepin' fraud... Cease and desist, and get back in yer hole.



Wow...he gets me torqued up....I guess I should go back to hibernating from this board... B might make my ego shink or get me angry and forget all of my anger management lessons....:angryfire

Was I married to you at some point?

 

[fischman]

That was a mistake...

HSF! Go get 'em!!!!

 

[B19 Flyer]

That was a mistake...

HSF! Go get 'em!!!!

It's got to be her....

 

[B19 Flyer]

Oh yeah, BTW, B19, I'm putting an offer on a piece of property this week I want to build my families dream house on this week...something I wouldnt have been able to do a year ago if I had let my elected leaders sit on their haunches and let the company do their thing and not present the pilot group the IBB.... Win Win negotiating...remember?
We both worked together and continue a strong symbiotic relationship......y'know? Oops, I'm sorry, you cannot see that throught your blinders.

..tah tah, sweetie, ...and I will eagerly await your fetid response, as pathetic as it may be.

You know what's funny? I have a couple of houses, not by choice, I'd rather have just one. I wasn't able to sell the last one after my last layoff from a union action so I just rent it out now. Thankfully the renter is taking nice care of it.

Congrads on being able to buy that piece of property. I do understand how nice it is to live in your own home.

The problem is, that I was forced to leave my favorite home and move to pay the bills. I hope you don't fall into the same fate as I did.

Let's hope that the union treats you better than me. Many of my friends have suffered the same fate as me, they rent thiers out too.

 

[imacdog]

That's a new one B, how do you come up with all these good stories? Although, you haven't said much about your "friend's suicide" bit lately. Did that fable get too stale?

 

[fischman]

You know what's funny? I have a couple of houses, not by choice, I'd rather have just one. I wasn't able to sell the last one after my last layoff from a union action so I just rent it out now. Thankfully the renter is taking nice care of it.

Congrads on being able to buy that piece of property. I do understand how nice it is to live in your own home.

The problem is, that I was forced to leave my favorite home and move to pay the bills. I hope you don't fall into the same fate as I did.

Let's hope that the union treats you better than me. Many of my friends have suffered the same fate as me, they rent thiers out too.

BOOO HOOOO!!!!:crying:

 

[brokeflyer]

You know what's funny? I have a couple of houses, not by choice, I'd rather have just one. I wasn't able to sell the last one after my last layoff from a union action so I just rent it out now. Thankfully the renter is taking nice care of it.

Congrads on being able to buy that piece of property. I do understand how nice it is to live in your own home.

The problem is, that I was forced to leave my favorite home and move to pay the bills. I hope you don't fall into the same fate as I did.

Let's hope that the union treats you better than me. Many of my friends have suffered the same fate as me, they rent thiers out too.

with your attitude i see why you got laid off......

 

[Galaxy]

They always cut the dead weight on a layoff first-Is that what happened?
Did you get to keep the red stapler?

Tell Nancy we said Hello.

 

[HiSpeedFlyer]

Was I married to you at some point?

So Solly, Sweetie, your not my type.....

But If you dress like the way you whine on this board, I bet you are one HOT looking dumb blonde....


...Splash!! Shot out!
Drop 50 and Fire for Effect, Over!


Be careful what you ask for, B....

 

[HiSpeedFlyer]

You know what's funny? I have a couple of houses, not by choice, I'd rather have just one. I wasn't able to sell the last one after my last layoff from a union action so I just rent it out now. Thankfully the renter is taking nice care of it. Well, Piss Poor Planning Prevents Proper Performance.. I have that base covered but thanks for the warning.

Congrads on being able to buy that piece of property. I do understand how nice it is to live in your own home. And I have so for many years.... now I'm getting what I want this time around.

The problem is, that I was forced to leave my favorite home and move to pay the bills. I hope you don't fall into the same fate as I did. I have my plan b and c...too bad you didnt plan that way so we wouldn't be having this 'battle of the wits' ... battle of wits, oiy vey.:laugh:

Let's hope that the union treats you better than me. I am the union, and I'll be damned if we allow ours to allow us to fall by the wayside. Many of my friends have suffered the same fate as me, they rent thiers out too. quote]

 

[netjetwife]

Excellent post, HSF! When the once apathetic NJ pilots of Local 284 stopped relying on a distant national organization to improve things for them and realized that they are the Union everything changed for the better. The NJA and FltOps pilots have taken charge of their own destiny and are standing up for themselves. Those flinging FUD and putting down the Union are deliberately (with much ignorance in the process) insulting every pilot that is a member of 1108 and NJASAP.

Furthermore, the vast majority of pilots are unionized for good reason as they well know. Managers and their union-busting cohorts typically work under a contract but actively try (telling lies left and right) to prevent pilots from exercising their legal right to do the same thing. What hypocrites! Yes, I've posted that point before, (it bears repeating) but it makes me disgusted every time I think of their hypocrisy...

I'm busy planning my family's vacation, ever conscious that many FltOps pilots and their families can't afford a vacation. There is absolutely no justifiable reason for management to withhold their contract. Doing so is evidence of short-sighted arrogance. The Sheering Gang is practicing their thuggery on those who played a major role in building the business the FLOPS are ruining. The gobs of money they're throwing away on their FUD campaign just proves over and over that a strong contract is a necessity if the pilots are going to protect their biggest investment from those who can (and obviously will) destroy their career on a whim. Hang in there, guys! NJW

 

[skanza]

You never answered dime line's question.

Kind of like B19?

Give me a dollar amount.

What should a FLOPS pilot earn?

You're right, sorry.
How 'bout $67,290?
Of course that all depends on which airframe you're on, how many hrs you have, etc...

Point is, probably no two pilots make the same so who cares?