My Rant on the STUPID & SPINELESS Flight Options Management!

[dime line]

The "battle" began because the union entered the property. The union are the invaders

Did some people (invaders) get hired at FLOPS? When did this happen? Who are these people?

 

[Fozzy]

BRK bought the WHOLE company. Planes, buildings, computers, cars, and a Unionized work force. It is a cost of doing business you dolt. But it does not surprise me that a management lackey like yourself can not (refuses) to see that. That argument ends there as far as Mr. Buffett goes, he buys the companys but he does not run them. Just do some research.
Now if NJA didn't want to cover the cost of paying for Pilots to come off the line and do Union work (and a lot of company work) they had options.
Negotiate a "better" contract for themselves.
Do what FLOPS is doing.

They chose wisely in 2005 AND 2007!
Amazing how capitalism works.

Stay away from NJA we want to stay profitable! :laugh:


Hey why are you dodging AeroBoy's questions??? Maybe we all should start calling you at your office and see when the next post is coming!

Hate to quote myself. But....

 

[brokeflyer]

The "battle" began because the union entered the property. The union are the invaders, and the company is going to do everything they can to repel the invaders and preserve the financial status of the company.

The contract needs to be negotiated, not won.

There are never any winners in union intervention in today's day and age.

so your saying you don't like unions?

ok got it...

 

[Just Peachy]

contract

There are never any winners in union intervention in today's day and age.

Oh!! You mean like the contract we have here at NJA??

The one that gave everyone a substantial raise?
7&7 + 15 day + 18 day scheds ?
Big time holiday pay?
No-cost health insurance?
100 cities to fly from?

Yeah, that would be the one..

you sir, are an idiot !!

 

[AeroBoy]

B19,

How about you man up and tell everyone that I've got you pegged? You still refuse to answer my question about the fractional advisory board. Am I going to be the one that has to out you, or will you do it voluntarily?

Ignoring me will only make the pain worse when it comes time to name names.

 

[waka]

B19,

How about you man up and tell everyone that I've got you pegged? You still refuse to answer my question about the fractional advisory board. Am I going to be the one that has to out you, or will you do it voluntarily?

Ignoring me will only make the pain worse when it comes time to name names.

Asking B19 to "man up" is too way tall of an order. He has been an ass kissing coward all of his life.

Normally I would be against naming names on a public message board. However, in this idiot's case, I make an exception.

 

[AeroBoy]

Waka, since posting users' real names violates FlightInfo policy, I can just name his company since it includes his last name.

Soon it will be time to for B19 to get compliant.

 

[Helmsalee]

What Peachy said. Plus record profits for the company.

 

[netjetwife]

AB, good tip on the company name.

Not to mention, Peachy and Helm, that the 2007 contract was done 3 years early in solution-focused Interest Based Bargaining that produced a win-win situation for the pilots and the company.

Waka, as the female poster who is constantly stalked by the fudspinner I agree with your assessment that he's a coward. He lurks in the shadows, pouncing on practically every post I make but dives for cover when you guys ask pointed questions...

Beware the word-twister loose on the board. You can spot it's yellow back slithering into it's hole every time a spotlight shines across the fud.

 

[B19 Flyer]

He lurks in the shadows, pouncing on practically every post I make

I respond to anybody that says stupid things. You just happen to say more stupid things than anybody else.

but dives for cover when you guys ask pointed questions....

Diving for cover because I don't give out personal information? Puh-leeeeese. :laugh:

What has 1108 done to help the Flight Options pilots? It's a lot worse now than it was two years ago. Not fully "I told you so" territory yet. But it's close.

 

[brokeflyer]

What has 1108 done to help the Flight Options pilots? It's a lot worse now than it was two years ago. Not fully "I told you so" territory yet. But it's close.

so you dont like unions?

so you've said.....

you have anything constructive to add? or just more union bashin cause your unhappy with how your life turned out.

 

[LizardEyes]

So you blowhard, I and the rest of the Flight Options pilots are supposed to roll over and continue to get screwed. I don't think so. Why do you think it took just 9 months for Frontier to negotiate their first contract? Gosh I wonder why Southwest does so well even though a big bad union is on property. Because, smart management recognizes that it's employees can be a positive lever for efficiency and growth. Yea, the notion that two groups can work together is probably a foreign concept to you. I am sooo sorry you had a bad experience earlier in your rough life under the heel of the union goons (intentional sarcasm inserted) . May I suggest some therapy, maybe Dr Phil has an opening soon.

 

[skyismyoffice]

Waka, since posting users' real names violates FlightInfo policy, I can just name his company since it includes his last name.

Soon it will be time to for B19 to get compliant.

PM me his info and I'll get it out for everyone to see. Out the dork!

 

[waka]

Originally Posted by B19 Flyer
What has 1108 done to help the Flight Options pilots? It's a lot worse now than it was two years ago. Not fully "I told you so" territory yet. But it's close.

so you dont like unions?

so you've said.....

you have anything constructive to add? or just more union bashin cause your unhappy with how your life turned out.

I have Resident Idiot 19 on ignore but, only since you quoted him;

Flight Options pilots are operating much more safely and legally than 2 years ago BECAUSE of the union. The union's safety committee has teeth, FLOPS Safety department simply kisses MS's ass. Resident Idiot 19 won't answer to that because he has no clue about what is going on at FLOPS.

...........oh, and he is a coward.

 

[B19 Flyer]

I have Resident Idiot 19 on ignore but, only since you quoted him;

Flight Options pilots are operating much more safely and legally than 2 years ago BECAUSE of the union. The union's safety committee has teeth, FLOPS Safety department simply kisses MS's ass. Resident Idiot 19 won't answer to that because he has no clue about what is going on at FLOPS.

...........oh, and he is a coward.

Tell that to the couple hundred pilots and employees that just got terminated. In the scheme of things, even if it was true that unions had a positive impact on safety, that's but a small piece of the big picture. The union turmoil and distractions on the propery counteracts anything the union safety committee will help. The big picture? Flight Options is not doing better than it was before.