More recalls at UAL

[Andy]

Ia there any way to tell what aircraft assortmentwill be in each recall class?

I would bypass and would wait a few months to go back into an airbus-only class. Don't want the guppy.

I think that Bob Neal is pretty accomodating on the guppy/airbus thing. You can talk to him personally when you get the recall notice. From what I've read, he'll do his best to get you in the aircraft that you desire. It wouldn't require a few months' bypass; more like one class max for fifi.
I also wouldn't worry about domiciles; it looks like there's been quite a bit of jockeying for different domiciles in the latest vacancy bids by recently recalled furloughees. Even looks like DEN would be easy to get.

 

[Fletch F Fletch]

Thanks for the replies. Here's a couple more questions.

1. My friend got furloughed and went to another Denver based carrier. He got recalled and is going back to United. Do folks think that's a good idea?

2. Are there any reasons to leave a place like FDX to go back to UAL?

 

[Andy]

Thanks for the replies. Here's a couple more questions.

1. My friend got furloughed and went to another Denver based carrier. He got recalled and is going back to United. Do folks think that's a good idea?

2. Are there any reasons to leave a place like FDX to go back to UAL?

1. I'd return to UAL; I think that those animals on the tail are gonna feel the LUV in DEN. Besides, with the way that vacancy bids have been going, he could be in a widebody very quickly (if that's his desire).

2. Always hard to say. Would many have left United in 1999 for any other airline? It's always a crap shoot.

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[level370]

Ia there any way to tell what aircraft assortmentwill be in each recall class?

I would bypass and would wait a few months to go back into an airbus-only class. Don't want the guppy.

I think all the classes have been a mix of 320's and 300's, but Bob Neil is guy that would know for sure. The 4/3 class is: 2 320 SFO, 5 320 LAX, 5 320 ORD, 5 300 ORD, and 5 300 DCA. I would have prefered fifi also, but I chose the guppy in DC because I've had enough commuting fun to last me for a while. It's going to be nice to drive to work and to be home on reserve again. I'm also hoping that I will have better seniority on the 73. As the senior by-passers return over the next year or so, I'm thinking that most of them will want fifi.

 

[level370]

Always hard to say. Would many have left United in 1999 for any other airline? It's always a crap shoot.

That's the truth. We might know by the time we retire if we made the right choices. I look at this career like it's a marathon not a sprint.

 

[Huggyu2]

I'm in the 3 April class, but will go on mil leave. I just got a letter tonight from Bob Neil advising me I was awarded a DCA 300. That was nearly my last choice. Coincidently, it's the vacancy bid I was sitting on when I went on mil leave after 9/11. It seems, based on what I'm reading, I should have done better on my award. So: does that mean they didn't consider my BIDREQ that I sent in? Or will they reshuffle the deck next week and allow me to lateral to a 320?
Also, it mentions I have a freeze until April 2009. Being on mil leave, I haven't, nor will I, do the training to incur the freeze. Does that matter, or do I still get stuck with the freeze?

If anyone in the 3 April class wants to work a trade for my DCA 300, please advise. Anything to SFO would be desireable, but I'll take just about anything else to get rid of this DCA 300.

 

[Andy]

Also, it mentions I have a freeze until April 2009. Being on mil leave, I haven't, nor will I, do the training to incur the freeze. Does that matter, or do I still get stuck with the freeze?

If anyone in the 3 April class wants to work a trade for my DCA 300, please advise. Anything to SFO would be desireable, but I'll take just about anything else to get rid of this DCA 300.

AFAIK, you won't incur the freeze. Watching the vacancy bids, it looks like you want to update your BIDREQ to reflect current desires. I've seen a lot of recently recalled pilots on ML get 767s. If you plan on being on ML for quite a while, I suggest that you put down a widebody or two at your desired base. Since you're wanting SFO, you will likely get a 767 if you stay on ML for more than a few months.
How soon are you planning on returning to UAL?
Since you're on ML, I would assume that your DCA 300 is put back in the hopper to be filled by someone else.

 

[level370]

I'm in the 3 April class, but will go on mil leave. I just got a letter tonight from Bob Neil advising me I was awarded a DCA 300. That was nearly my last choice. Coincidently, it's the vacancy bid I was sitting on when I went on mil leave after 9/11. It seems, based on what I'm reading, I should have done better on my award. So: does that mean they didn't consider my BIDREQ that I sent in? Or will they reshuffle the deck next week and allow me to lateral to a 320?
Also, it mentions I have a freeze until April 2009. Being on mil leave, I haven't, nor will I, do the training to incur the freeze. Does that matter, or do I still get stuck with the freeze?

If anyone in the 3 April class wants to work a trade for my DCA 300, please advise. Anything to SFO would be desireable, but I'll take just about anything else to get rid of this DCA 300.

You just found out your award? Call Bob with your questions, he's a good guy and seems very interested in helping us get what we want. But, if you're going on mil leave, I wouln't worry about DCA, you won't be there anyway. You should be able to lateral over to SFO and maybe get a 320 if you don't start training on the 300. How long is your leave? If your out long enough you may be able to hold a widebody.

 

[level370]

opps. See Andy above.

 

[Huggyu2]

Thanks. I have an email to Bob sitting in his inbox. I called him, but he's on a trip. I'll let you know what happens.