More Drama from Pacific Wings

[Bus-Driver]

i am surprised nobody has noticed the new PW trailer at the CAT... maybe everbody on this board doesn't fly anymore. hahaha...__________________

Good luck with the new trailer.

 

[KL24]

i am surprised nobody has noticed the new PW trailer at the CAT

New trailer, there's the sign of a strong business. We won't build a real building we'll just keep filling up this grass lot with a bunch of single-wides.

... maybe everbody on this board doesn't fly anymore. hahaha...

We all just fly places you could never get into, and thankfully never will get into. They're called reputable airlines.

 

[skydivinguy]

looks like there will be a real airline coming to hawaii next year....



http://starbulletin.com/2005/11/18/business/story02.html

Yeah, yeah, we all know about Mesa's pending arrival in the islands. Now let's get back to these fun personal attacks!

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

The best part is that the guy who shot the video is only 25, but he will make more money at one time from Wackenhut than you will see in your entire career as a pilot.

Your finding this to be the best part speaks volumes.

 

[VanMan]

Must be hard to watch a little airline like that continually achieve its objectives, and they do. Doesn't seem to make any difference whether they're getting Island Air thrown out of the CAT or Wackyhut thrown out of the airport. They seem to get it done every time.

Ranting won't bring back your pension plan, or save you from mesa's 40% profit margin, or get back any of the other concessions you have been forced to make and will be forced to make in the future before making the mid-life transition to time share sales.

Mesa's using scab labor ladies, and it's going to be interesting to see who values principles over the opportunity to fly a jet in Hawaii. Unfortunately, somebody will always do it for less than you.

So tell us about the kool aid for the hundredth time. It's as hilarious now as it was the last hundred times you posted it.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Mesa's using scab labor ladies, and it's going to be interesting to see who values principles over the opportunity to fly a jet in Hawaii. Unfortunately, somebody will always do it for less than you.

Takes one to know one. Yep, unfortunately, Van, you aren't the only piece of $hit wannabe out there who can't do it the right way.

 

[islandhopper]

[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana][SIZE=-1]Posted on: Friday, November 18, 2005[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana][SIZE=-2][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+2]Enough already with feud[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana][SIZE=-2]By Lee Cataluna
Advertiser Columnist

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=-1] As the old-timers used to say, "The more you stir stuff that smells, the more it stinks."
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=-1] That comes to mind in this foul-smelling mess at the Kahului Airport. The folks involved keep stirring it.
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In an ongoing feud, a Wackenhut security guard has been arrested and banned from working at state facilities. This, after he was caught on tape threatening an employee of the small airline, Pacific Wings. This, after the employee refused to stop shooting video of the guard. This, after the guard cited that same Pacific Wings employee for a parking violation.
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Yes, the behavior of the man paid to provide security for the airport was shameful, but how many hotheads are going to keep their cool when provoked by a video camera in their face?
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=-1] And Pacific Wings has a history of provocation.
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Last year, Pacific Wings bought TV ad time to run commercials accusing the Department of Transportation of corruption, mismanagement and favoritism to Island Air. They took shots at Rod Haraga, Scott Ishikawa and the governor.
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"Are bankrupt Mainland companies deciding how Hawai'i airport dollars are spent?" the spot asked. "Has the Lingle Administration given control of Hawai'i's small airports to big business?"
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=-1] Pacific Wings has tangled with Democrats, too, accusing state Sen. J. Kalani English of playing politics with federally subsidized air service to Hana.
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The company also filed a complaint with the U.S. Department of Justice about agreements between Hawaiian Airlines, Aloha Airlines and Island Air that put Pacific Wings at a marketing disadvantage.
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It's like they see enemies everywhere.
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Nothing can excuse the behavior of that security guard, cursing, spitting and shoving. But sending that videotape to Honolulu TV stations wasn't for court. It was for TV.
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If us guys, the general public, can't get on a 20-minute Neighbor Island flight without having our box of manapua X-rayed and our rubber slippers inspected, then the people who work at the airport need to be held to a higher standard as well.
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It's like rival gangs at a high school. The principal must restore order. If state officials can't handle the situation, then the feds should step in and lay down the law. This kind of long-standing hostility from both sides, all sides, should not be tolerated in an airport, a place critical to national security and vital to Hawai'i's economy.
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Just stop already. Just stop.
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Lee Cataluna's column runs Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays. Reach her at 535-8172 or [email protected].
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[Hugh Jorgan]

I love Lee Cataluna. Miss her being on that morning show with Guy Hagi back in the early 90s.
She is right. It takes two to tango and this $hit is just plain childish. The security dudes and the PW folks invlolved are nothing more than a bunch of babies. I submit Vans crybaby posts over the past two years as support. Thanks Lee, for reminding us who know and informing those who might not.

 

[RJP]

what is his regular login? who is this guy? can u explain?

Please refer to posts #45/46.

 

[zal08]

What constant drama created by the two GKs of PW! What is so sad is that this whole situation has been contrived and planned by the big GK. Making money at the expense of others is a hobby of his, weather it’s by barely paying his employees over minimum wage or crafting situations which allow him to win lawsuits. One of the more disgusting things to read in these recent stories is statements about the false concern for his employee’s safety and welfare which he is using for public sympathy and leverage. Never seemed to care much about their well being in the past, just ask any former or current PW employee (with the exception of those rare cases like mini GK who see something to personally gain). Does another company even exist where so many employees have been treated with such disregard and have had to live in constant fear of being fired?

Also heard rumor that little GK decided to aggravate the already tense atmosphere with the Wackenhut guys by giving them the finger and knocking over all the cones at the commuter terminal, sounds like the work of someone obviously not trying to cause any trouble, just a good citizen…yeah right! That video is classic, you can tell he has been trained to say certain things that keep him as the innocent one in the situation. It's like a game to the GKs. Come on…who gives their employees hand-held cameras? How is it that big GK just happens to know all the right moments in the past to show up with a video camera? Odd, don’t you think? Only someone in search of finding a lawsuit jackpot would think of such tactics.

I am not saying Wackenhut hasn’t made some dumb mistakes in handling PW. I don’t think they realize what they are up against. The GKs are pure evil and are by no means just innocent victims of harassment, but that is going to be their story (in case you haven’t read the 100 quotes from GK) and they are going stick to it until money falls from the sky. Someday we can only hope that karma will take its toll.

 

[mdanno808]

I don't recall ever posting regarding the koolaid drinking, but I could be wrong. Either way, I didn't mean for it to amuse you. I meant to post a question for you to answer which is: Are you just trying to wind people up, or are you really that proud of your job? As far as the flying at Mesa, I can assure you I won't (and believe me, flying a jet based at home sounds mighty good compared to the crap schedule I'm flying). Will you?

BTW, speaking of pensions, and benefits, how much is in your A fund? Oh, you don't have one? How about your B fund? What! No B fund? Well, at least you get to fly a cool, shiny jet. Wait...oh my bad. They do pay you cash don't they? If not, just keep that video camera and pawn it.

Must be hard to watch a little airline like that continually achieve its objectives, and they do. Doesn't seem to make any difference whether they're getting Island Air thrown out of the CAT or Wackyhut thrown out of the airport. They seem to get it done every time.

Ranting won't bring back your pension plan, or save you from mesa's 40% profit margin, or get back any of the other concessions you have been forced to make and will be forced to make in the future before making the mid-life transition to time share sales.

Mesa's using scab labor ladies, and it's going to be interesting to see who values principles over the opportunity to fly a jet in Hawaii. Unfortunately, somebody will always do it for less than you.

So tell us about the kool aid for the hundredth time. It's as hilarious now as it was the last hundred times you posted it.

 

[OB-CPO]

Someday we can only hope that karma will take it's toll.

Yes GK is making the Hawaii aviation scene look like a real podunk place to do business. No professionalism at all. Lee Cataluna is right. Aviation is no place for this kind of behavior. The FAA should begin an investigation into PW and find a reason to shut them down ASAP.

 

[Airbeast]

Hahaha a new trailer. Wow what a mighty "airline" :laugh: Finally a good news article from Lee Cataluna though.

Yea yea yea I forgot...I was doing hammerheads in a 208 almost killed someone, and then got fired. "Meanwhile, the FO was tied up, paralyzed, and he was just watching the whole thing in horror without any control of the situation." Was all this before or after I went wingwalking? Ever since I ejected that day my memory is all to hell. That or did I say fu*k you and left. Then you threatened a couple of unfortunate FOs to make something up or be fired. All that in addition to taking away all the FO's jumpseat privilages and shift trades if someone didn't come up with something. Too bad they quit too now... along with 3 others that same month. Good luck with whatever little statements you got, I'm sure they'll really back them up for you now. Pretty nice how the cp kept trying to get info out of them when there was nothing to begin with "Are you sure that you didn't do this? Are you sure that you didn't do that? But didn't you do this?" No No No you idiots.

So still getting people in trouble for squaking planes? CP still ecourage everyone to fly through clouds cause you HAVE to get there? He still fly to Hana VFR in the clouds at 500 feet making 300 foot traffic patterns with the EGPS going off the whole time? He still ask if you can keep flying the plane with binding ailerons for the rest of the day? Sure, I'll be glad to talk to the FSDO. You're not the only one with statements and mine are not from FOs like you say yours are.

I'm unemployed? Guess I must have been flying for charity this morning. Even without the flying, just selling bikes on the side makes me almost twice what I made there.

And yes even Mcdonalds has a better QOL than there. End up making the same hourly amount, don't have to wait till 4 in the morning to know your schedule for that day, don't have to get up at 4 and get home at 9 at night, most of Hawaii doesn't hate you, don't have to deal with all the PW BS, etc...Those guys are set.

How many more time are you going to post my myspace page? Post all you want...I don't really have anything to hide. You're the one being a little bitch hiding behind the computer. Keep on making new screen names...

But, while you got me in the myspacing mood I found a couple things wrong on this page... http://www.myspace.com/mauipilot

Surfing? The last time the coast guard had to come out and once again he made the news cause he couldn't swim himself back to shore.

Orientation: Straight? - We all know it's really GAY so quit making crap up.

Body Type: 5' 11" / Athletic? Since when is a little twat with a humpback considered athletic? Quit bending over taking it doggystyle it may straighten out.

Occupation: Pilot? Buying stickers, pissing off every airport in Hawaii and putting around in company 172 doesn't make one's occupation as being a pilot. Don't even have 135 mins. Oh wait I forgot about flynhawaiian767. Take that back.

Pretty funny comment from a friend on there though! So..."did you ever get that snapple bottle out of your butt?"

Keep acting like losing the "privalage" to work there is the biggest mistake everyone makes and want to come crawling back. Couldn't be happier now along with everyone else. Keep living in your little dreamworld. Everyone still hates you and PW and you'll always have 100% employee turnover. Not one person has regrets about not working there.

Karma's catching up...

Once again for some good laughs:
mms://66.180.128.240/khnl/news/news8at6/maui_airport.wmv

What an embarrassment to aviation...

 

[RJP]

But, while you got me in the myspacing mood I found a couple things wrong on this page... http://www.myspace.com/mauipilot

Nicely done.

Now on a related note. Was talking with some neighbors tonight and they mentioned that they had flown 'Pacific Air' to Hana. They commented that the flight was low-level and fun for taking pics of the North Shore of Maui. They also said that they loved Hana airport, which is understandable.

They mentioned the news reports about the fight/video, etc but said they flew before the drama and weren't really sure about who was to blame.

The one thing that I thought was most interesting was that they said "The pilots seemed like they really didn't enjoy their jobs." Yep, that's what they said. Completely uninterested bystanders who happened to fly on the mighty PW and were able to ascertain that the pilots at PW hate their job flying in Hawaii.

That's a pretty sad statement for such an upstanding organization.

 

[VanMan]

The HDOT statement says it all. Wackenhut has been ordered to clean up its act and the contract is under review, so it looks like PW has already won. That's gotta be hard to watch, since they have done it so many times before. All the disgruntled ramblings by PW wash outs and and haggard former TV hosts won't change that.

Attacking the victims is what people always do do when they have nothing else, and it always looks desperate. Statements about people deserving to get beaten up are as stupid as saying the webmaster deserved to die in a plane crash, or Aloha employees deserve to lose their pensions. Maybe that's why the state just decided to knock it off and clean up the mess.

But if it makes you feel better, by all means go ahead and get it off your chest by posting here. It's probably your only affordable option now that management has cut counseling from your benefit plan.