More changes at Avantair

[P180puke]

I will say it again this is the best aviation job I have ever had. I helped get the company where it is. I am going into my third year and an IOE captain in year 3 earns more than you can at any other fractional in year 3. In fact I would still be an FO. I don't know why these posts are started. I am hopeful it is not union plants that spread this stuff. Hopefully I set the record straight. If anyone wants to get the truth call the DO yourself.

Since you "set the record straight", what says you now?
These posts are started because in many cases, it's the only way to know what's REALLY happening here. As a matter of fact, I've gotten more factual information about avantair from here than I EVER have from management.....oh wait, you ARE management. Makes sense now.

 

[indefinitehold]

The director of operations has resigned.

From what i hear at CDW, he stormed out. some new guy,an older man, lock PT out of his own office. CDW says the old guy is some new president in the company.

 

[corpflunkie]

I just got the word from cdw today. I hadn't heard anything about the new "old guy. Guess we will just have to wait for some official notice as to who is taking over. Not even going to try and speculate.

 

[indefinitehold]

dont need to speculate. Assistant CP, CM, took the job.

 

[netjetwife]

Imagine me dusting off my western garb... That was faster than I thought it might show up. Oh yes, I had my ear to the ground. I agree about getting good info here. My pilot friend that kept me advised was right on target. Figures that something involving the FAA would set off some ground tremors (changes). I guess we'll all stay tuned for the rest of the story... In the meantime, I'm gonna go check my mailbox. My best to all the Avantair pilots and their families during these uncertain times.
Hang in there!
NJW

 

[indefinitehold]

I was fowarded an email that PT sent out to the Scheduling department regarding the Do's departure.

Here is part of the email, it does not say much,

This email is to update you all on the events of today. I regretfully anounce
that today Joe Murphy our Director of Operations has decided to resign from his position with Avantair. Joe made this decision based on his own personal
reasons. Joe will be missed by us all. Curt Miller has taken over this position
for the time being.

 

[ilikecheese]

I was fowarded an email that PT sent out to the Scheduling department regarding the Do's departure.

Here is part of the email, it does not say much,

This email is to update you all on the events of today. I regretfully anounce
that today Joe Murphy our Director of Operations has decided to resign from his position with Avantair. Joe made this decision based on his own personal
reasons. Joe will be missed by us all. Curt Miller has taken over this position
for the time being.

Mr. PT will not be around much longer either. Too bad he doesn't know that.






On second thought... him not knowing is kinda fun to watch. (I am an evil bastard! imp: )

 

[indefinitehold]

That is too funny. His people in the Scheduling Center have been telling him to get out for some time now. They are all confused by his actions, and especially his propagandy email to the troops. We thought that he would have woke up after the DO bailed.

hear is the rest of the memo:

On a good note I want you all to know that I am staying with Avantair and will
do whatever it is that I have to do to keep this department running and to keep
all of you with me until we move. As you all know the move date has been set.
This move date may or may not be reality and I will be in a meeting to discuss
this in Florida on Thursday. I promise you all that when I get back I will have
all of the answers that you need on this situation and others as well. I ask all
of you to please bare with me on this. I know that there are many rumors going
around and I ask all of you to also ask me about anything that you may hear
before you go and speak about any situations that you may question. I will do my
best not to let any of you down.

Any questions at all please call me any time.

I thank you all for your hard work and understanding.

 

[indefinitehold]

My pilot friend that kept me advised was right on target. that something involving the FAA would set of some ground tremors (changes). I guess we'll all stay tuned for the rest of the story...


do you know something we don't?

 

[ilikecheese]

That is too funny. His people in the Scheduling Center have been telling him to get out for some time now. They are all confused by his actions, and especially his propagandy email to the troops. We thought that he would have woke up after the DO bailed.

hear is the rest of the memo:

On a good note I want you all to know that I am staying with Avantair and will
do whatever it is that I have to do to keep this department running and to keep
all of you with me until we move. As you all know the move date has been set.
This move date may or may not be reality and I will be in a meeting to discuss
this in Florida on Thursday. I promise you all that when I get back I will have
all of the answers that you need on this situation and others as well. I ask all
of you to please bare with me on this. I know that there are many rumors going
around and I ask all of you to also ask me about anything that you may hear
before you go and speak about any situations that you may question. I will do my
best not to let any of you down.

Any questions at all please call me any time.

I thank you all for your hard work and understanding.

Blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah! Blah! Blah blah! Blah blah blah blah. I am PT! Check out my cool blackberry! Blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah! Blah! Blah blah! Blah blah blah blah. You're fired! Blah blah blah! I always take care of my people (except when I'm talking about them behing their backs). Blah Blah. Look my my blackberry! Blah blah!

 

[ilikecheese]

My pilot friend that kept me advised was right on target. that something involving the FAA would set of some ground tremors (changes). I guess we'll all stay tuned for the rest of the story...


do you know something we don't?

Apparently, Avantair management thinks its perfectly ok to fly airplanes around in clear violation of FAA rules. It is no secret. Mr. Big Bad FAA Inspector paid CDW a visit over the last few days.

 

[Family guy]

Too bad PT doesnt know he is being canned as well. At least he is making 75K or so. For the time being he can put some food on the table with what he's making. Oh wait we pilots are making that too right!?
Heard DOM resign and came back! What a mess........... I'd rather live with my parents if i want some drama!

 

[indefinitehold]

dude that is so funny.....

it is so him.....blah, blah, it fits him perfectly when they call it a crackberry....blah blah blah

 

[netjetwife]

Isn't it interesting how the news you're asked to keep to yourselves is usually
somewhat of an embarrassing nature for those who send out the email?

 

[ilikecheese]

Too bad PT doesnt know he is being canned as well. At least he is making 75K or so. For the time being he can put some food on the table with what he's making. Oh wait we pilots are making that too right!?
Heard DOM resign and came back! What a mess........... I'd rather live with my parents if i want some drama!

PT is too stupid to make $75K. He's nowhere near that kind of money.

 

[indefinitehold]

interesting......

 

[netjetwife]

My pilot friend that kept me advised was right on target. that something involving the FAA would set of some ground tremors (changes). I guess we'll all stay tuned for the rest of the story...


do you know something we don't?

ILC, seems to be listening closely, too. It is up to my "source" to direct my contribution to the conversation. I will defer to him. I must say that I'm well versed in the names of NJ management, but just learning all the Avantair data. Too, I lack the background knowledge to appreciate the "punch line" but as soon as I'm able to match the names at Avant to like personalities at NJ, I'm sure I'll have a greater appreciation for it all. One thing I can tell you is that the names may be different but the attitudes of the pilots seem quite familiar. It seems to me that frac pilots have a lot in common.....

 

[BP200]

It is no secret now! 136SL is the bird in question. I feel sorry for the PIC! No matter what the company tells you to do PIC a.k.a CAPT has the final authority. I hope Ops and Chief pilot is backing up the capt.( in the past they never did. good luck was the ONLY word) After all, they forced him to fly. I understand the PIC's situation but lets face it guys! we heard the term before "If you dont take this flight or......else...." I was in that position for more than few occasions! As a result I got a call from Ops(CP)and CEO himself. What kind of ops is this?? For the time being we are somewhat happy. Pay check, crew meal etc. We gotta have some sort of protection so that this wont happen!
As for PT.... Where should I start. He is a very nice guy! If you be nice to him he will take care of you. Uhhhhhhhhppppps did i just type that!? Plz bare with me because im buzzed......

Btw, Do we have to take a pay cut?? FAA will/did recieve close to $1Mil donation from avantair!?

 

[Corona]

No matter what the company tells you to do PIC a.k.a CAPT has the final authority. I hope Ops and Chief pilot is backing up the capt.( in the past they never did. good luck was the ONLY word) After all, they forced him to fly. I understand the PIC's situation but lets face it guys! we heard the term before "If you dont take this flight or......else...." I was in that position for more than few occasions!

I'm gonna call BS on this one. You state that the PIC is the final authority, which nearly every student pilot knows. No manager can "force" you to fly, unless they put a gun to your head, which would then be called "hijacking".

I've turned down one or two unairworthy airplanes in my career, and despite much bluster from the higher-ups, nothing ever came of it. I've never had a manager state, or imply, "take this flight or else". If they had, my middle finger and some carefully chosen words would have answered. I'd rather be fired than break the law.

You either have a pair, or you don't.

C

 

[indefinitehold]

I've turned down one or two unairworthy airplanes in my career, and despite much bluster from the higher-ups, nothing ever came of it. I've never had a manager state, or imply, "take this flight or else". If they had, my middle finger and some carefully chosen words would have answered. I'd rather be fired than break the law.


no, I doubt the managment has ever threatened anyone to fly or else, except the old CP DV. However, it is not far past them to twist reality to get the job done.

Based on all the crazy talk in CDW, I think this is why the DO bailed.The pilot in question was firend of his in the ops office.