Midwest getting new aircrafts????

[CitationLover]

hey sailing,

stop posting and get on over to CoD4!

 

[deadstick]

sure you do when your campaign is going to highlight it. it's no different than Obama being a muslim simply cause he went to a muslim school in his past, but clearly you do not see the irony in the "manchurian" past (which is a joke fyi). the right getting high and mighty with regards to mccain is so hypocritical compared to how kerry (another ******************************bag) got treated with regards to his service.

there are plenty of real reasons to consider mccain a poor candidate:

a) his equating work actions with terrorism
b) his history with regards to airline pilots
c) his wife is a drug addict (kitty dukakis tactic)
d) continuation of bush's failed foreign policy
e) he has a black love child
f) two words: keating five

oops e was already used by our current president in 2000.

This is my last post in this thread that does not apply to MidEx getting new aircraft.

1) The MC was a m-o-v-i-e, a product of Hollywood.
2) McCain experienced real physical and mental torture. I see no "joke" in that, fyi...
3) "Dingleberry" is still a funny word.


Back on point, didn't Spirit, another company under the TPG shadow, just defer deliveries of their new aircraft? And now the talk is that MidEx is getting the 'Bus?

 

[PCL_128]

Is your company trying to see fit that I will never return to a job in MKE?

Perhaps you should have supported the merger rather than running your mouth about how great things would be as an independent airline. In any case, whether you despise AirTran or not for what they're doing in MKE, that doesn't justify your constant unfounded statements about our "desperation." We're doing just fine, thanks.

 

[Propsync]

Back on point, didn't Spirit, another company under the TPG shadow, just defer deliveries of their new aircraft? And now the talk is that MidEx is getting the 'Bus?

If they aren't going to put money in Spirit, you can bet the farm on them not putting another dime in Midwest. New a-i-r-c-r-a-f-t (whew) will not make Midwest profitable. Kinda like putting lipstick on a pig. Remember, if it won't make TPG money, it won't be done.

 

[eightdriver]

Exactly. They made a statement months ago saying that the only reason they were on the property was to assist NWA in the bid for control of MKE. Thats it... I highly doubt that we will ever see new aircrafts (ha ha) on our own. Now if we merge with NW then i could see some old A320's maybe coming our way. With NW pilots probably flying them...either way we're SOL!! 8

 

[Britpilot]

AAI is pulling out of BOS already, that's from a gate agent (AAI) in BOS....

Yeah, because a gate agent knows all.

 

[russtgol]

Yeah, because a gate agent knows all.

Yeah and AirTran pilots know all too...

 

[deadstick]

If they aren't going to put money in Spirit, you can bet the farm on them not putting another dime in Midwest. New a-i-r-c-r-a-f-t (whew) will not make Midwest profitable. Kinda like putting lipstick on a pig. Remember, if it won't make TPG money, it won't be done.

You make some valid points. I'm just going off of Posts #1 and #20. IF they are correct, that means somebody brought some money to the table. The next question would be where are they coming from? The Spirit scenario seemed like an option.

 

[CitationLover]

Perhaps you should have supported the merger rather than running your mouth about how great things would be as an independent airline. In any case, whether you despise AirTran or not for what they're doing in MKE, that doesn't justify your constant unfounded statements about our "desperation." We're doing just fine, thanks.

When you issue securities to raise cash for day to day operations, what would YOU call it then?

As you trannies like to point out, hey "it's business" nothing personal.

I take it the various financial reporters who labeled it desperate or wall street's views wrt AAI's 52wk low stock price doesn't show MOST people thinking AAI is desperate (as are ALL airlines) now.

 

[PCL_128]

When you issue securities to raise cash for day to day operations, what would YOU call it then?

The cash had nothing to do with day-to-day operations. The intent of the large cash position (20% of annual revenue) is to be able to take advantage of any opportunities that present themselves.

As you trannies like to point out, hey "it's business" nothing personal.

On the contrary, you seem to make it personal. You're mad that your beloved Timmaaaay screwed things up so bad that it got you furloughed, so your emotional response is to take it out on AirTran.

I take it the various financial reporters who labeled it desperate or wall street's views wrt AAI's 52wk low stock price doesn't show MOST people thinking AAI is desperate (as are ALL airlines) now.

Only a couple of reporters have indicated that they view it as a bad sign. Most have indicated that the large cash position is a good step forward. We're expecting a small profit in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, even with these outlandish oil prices. We're doing just fine.

 

[CitationLover]

The cash had nothing to do with day-to-day operations. The intent of the large cash position (20% of annual revenue) is to be able to take advantage of any opportunities that present themselves.

Wall street begs to differ. Why is the market cap LESS than your supposed cash position?

On the contrary, you seem to make it personal. You're mad that your beloved Timmaaaay screwed things up so bad that it got you furloughed, so your emotional response is to take it out on AirTran.

Once again look at the history on this MIDWEST thread. Who brought AAI personally into it? It was a nice conversation until an AAI pilot says this:

But like you said, we will see whether we add flights or reduce flights. Or maybe, we will just come in and wreck your yields during the profitable summer months every year and let you guys stumble through the winter as we redeploy our fleet to the Florida routes.

Only a couple of reporters have indicated that they view it as a bad sign. Most have indicated that the large cash position is a good step forward. We're expecting a small profit in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, even with these outlandish oil prices. We're doing just fine.

I hope you do make a profit and stay business, that's the difference here. You trannies on here gleefully hope for MEH's death.

 

[PCL_128]

Wall street begs to differ. Why is the market cap LESS than your supposed cash position?

Markets are rarely efficient in the short term. Ever read "A Random Walk Down Wall Street?" Looking to the markets to determine a company's financial health is a fool's errand. You need to do your own (unbiased) analysis of the balance sheet.

Once again look at the history on this MIDWEST thread. Who brought AAI personally into it? It was a nice conversation until an AAI pilot says this:
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I don't know who said that, but it was uncalled for.

I hope you do make a profit and stay business, that's the difference here. You trannies on here gleefully hope for MEH's death.

BS. I don't hope for the death of any unionized airline. Very few of our pilots wish any ill on MEH. You're imagining ill will where none exists.

 

[SkiFishFly]

I hope you do make a profit and stay business, that's the difference here. You trannies on here gleefully hope for MEH's death.

I would never wish for MEH's demise. Please don't lump us all together because of the statements of a few.

I find it very interesting that you guys might get some new aircrafts. Let us all know if any new info comes to light.

These times are waaay too scary to wish anyone anything but good. That Kharma has a way of really biting one in the a@#.

 

[maxblast72]

We have also been hearing that Airtran is loosing a lot of money on their new expansion routs from Milwaukee and it didn't turn out like they planned and they will be scaling back on all the loosing routes.

Here is how the thread started. A couple of Airtran guys including myself put their 2 cents into the thread disagreeing. Then came the typical Airtran business plan bashing by the Midwest guys.

When Airtran went into DFW several years ago, we got a very tough response from American Airlines. That is what well run airlines do, protect their home turf. The net result: Airtran reduce their flights in DFW and looked for their next opportunity.

Airtran takes their new airplanes and throws a few on new Atlanta spokes and then takes some others and tests new markets to see what the response is. We have tested MDW, CLT, MSP, and MKE to see what the hometown airlines will do. We have found a weakness in MKE and are working to grab marketshare. Nothing different than SWA is doing in DEN, SFO, and IAD to test Frontier and United, two weak airlines.

I think Midwest Airlines has a unique and great product to offer. However, the airline has been poorly managed for many years begging for someone to come in and go for the knockout punch. Funny, for years it was Northwest trying to provide that punch. Now it just happens to be Airtran looking for a fight, and you guys and Northwest are best friends sharing you hedge fuel.

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

I would never wish for MEH's demise. Please don't lump us all together because of the statements of a few.

I find it very interesting that you guys might get some new aircrafts. Let us all know if any new info comes to light.

These times are waaay too scary to wish anyone anything but good. That Kharma has a way of really biting one in the a@#.

I think when he refers to Trannies he means the "Dingleberries". Nothing against the AT pilot group as a whole.