midwest/frontier going to become 1 airline

[GFunk20]

He doesnt have to pick up on this. Bedford capitalizes on this scenario, except now he is going to have a lot of antsy, with no place to go, pilots who are going to DEMAND BETTER PAY and CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS>

Trust me..

CYA

Stemmler can sell you anything. This is the same place that took a seat out of the E-190 to pay lower rates.

Funny how people forget history and the RAH Teamsters 95% vote authorization to strike back in 2003. That was when it was JUST Chautauqua, much less all of this certificate maze going on.

 

[clr4theapch]

I totally agree with animaltail's assesment of RAH.. THIS IS DITTO FOR THE DISPATCHERS get a clue... you folks that keep accepting those wages, especially you older new hires just coming back into dispatching, you are comitting financial suicide if you take this offer. You're future wages will never come up to speed of what was once a proud Frontier Airline family... Yea you are happy you finally got a job, but the aftermath will turn into buyer's remorse in about a year... so don't complain about your wages then...you should have demanded Frontier wages/ contract... uke:

In this business, there are no stepping stones for dispatchers, not like pilots at all... oh maybe a few will slip through the crack and get a job with a major if you're young, single and have a lot of time, not so for those 40 something newbies.. a very high percentage will never make the jump, this is your career distination.. !! so enjoy..

rant off..

 

[Wesb737fo]

Combine the names to reflect what its becoming...Midtier Airlines.

Or " Refroblic Airlines "

 

[Bluestreak]

I totally agree with animaltail's assesment of RAH.. THIS IS DITTO FOR THE DISPATCHERS get a clue... you folks that keep accepting those wages, especially you older new hires just coming back into dispatching, you are comitting financial suicide if you take this offer. You're future wages will never come up to speed of what was once a proud Frontier Airline family... Yea you are happy you finally got a job, but the aftermath will turn into buyer's remorse in about a year... so don't complain about your wages then...you should have demanded Frontier wages/ contract... uke:

In this business, there are no stepping stones for dispatchers, not like pilots at all... oh maybe a few will slip through the crack and get a job with a major if you're young, single and have a lot of time, not so for those 40 something newbies.. a very high percentage will never make the jump, this is your career distination.. !! so enjoy..

rant off..

Umm,shouldn't a moderator be umm,I dunno...Impartial ? I doubt Mark would have ever posted something like this.

 

[AnimalTale]

Umm,shouldn't a moderator be umm,I dunno...Impartial ? I doubt Mark would have ever posted something like this.

"Marter"!

Opinions r opinions and are allowed to be expressed..Actually, the moderator's opinion, is the TRUTH on this subject.

CYA

 

[Atlanta Vicks]

http://allthingsf9.blogspot.com/

Perfect example of what Animale Tale is talking about. Great read!

 

[Golden Falcon]

Or " Refroblic Airlines "

if it was Philippines-based, you might be right

 

[chqflyer]

http://allthingsf9.blogspot.com/

Perfect example of what Animale Tale is talking about. Great read!

That's some funny stuff there! Just be careful, RAH will not hesitate to sick the company lawyers on anyone saying mean things about the company. The lawyers would destroy your life just for sport.

 

[AnimalTale]

http://allthingsf9.blogspot.com/

Perfect example of what Animale Tale is talking about. Great read!

It is not Funny! It is pretty sad

Everybody knows the truth, yet everybody turns a blind eye on it, hoping that the BAD becomes Bearable...

CYA

 

[Wesb737fo]

Hey RAH dudes, what is the ave. fuel burn rate for the E-170 at cruise?

 

[CA1900]

They already are one airline, if not in name yet.

I had a ticket a few weeks ago on Frontier, from Seattle to Denver. A Republic ERJ showed up, in Midwest paint.

 

[LearLove]

Hey RAH dudes, what is the ave. fuel burn rate for the E-170 at cruise?

4000 to 5000 lbs hour depending on alt and speed. high 30's to fl410 and M0.78(or less) = 4000 lbs/hour, high 20's to mid 30's and faster (.80 to .82) and its is up around 5000.

 

[jws717]

4000 to 5000 lbs hour depending on alt and speed. high 30's to fl410 and M0.78(or less) = 4000 lbs/hour, high 20's to mid 30's and faster (.80 to .82) and its is up around 5000.

That thing chugs like sailor.

 

[rogerwilcoout]

That thing chugs like sailor.

Not many of us fly it that fast anymore. No need to. Thus we save a substantial amount on fuel burn. Try to anyway.

 

[Popeye0537]

4000 to 5000 lbs hour depending on alt and speed. high 30's to fl410 and M0.78(or less) = 4000 lbs/hour, high 20's to mid 30's and faster (.80 to .82) and its is up around 5000.

Thats a little high lear, average is 1600 to 1900 a side for a given speed. Average alt flown is mid to high 30's.
Those #'s are more in line with the 190.

 

[Jetjockey]

4000 to 5000 lbs hour depending on alt and speed. high 30's to fl410 and M0.78(or less) = 4000 lbs/hour, high 20's to mid 30's and faster (.80 to .82) and its is up around 5000.

Very close to a 737 NG, and I'm talking a fully loaded 800 or 900 with 175 pax. I thought that jungle jet would be more efficient.

 

[Habib]

What is the cost from the factory of the E190 vs. the 737-800?

 

[AnimalTale]

What is the cost from the factory of the E190 vs. the 737-800?

WHO CARES??

When u have "passive" SLAVE LABOR, it is cheaper to fly the EMBs...

I guarantee BB is going to have an ALL EMB fleet pretty soon.. He will DECLARE FORCE MAJEURE, dissolve the semi-livable FAPA contract!!! I know, I know Fapa pilots are the lowest CASM in the industry<----------Keep believing this FAPA. Look around you all of our flying is being done by LOW WAGE EMB guys..

I would be happy, if at least, the RAH guys were flying the EMB for better wages and conditions, but it is not so...At least they are getting NICE, NEW SHINEY Airplanes that are flying other people's routes,,,GOOD JOB!!! What a successful and ambitious group you are...LEECHES!!!

CYA

 

[GFunk20]

Oh well, atleast you saved your tails.

 

[AnimalTale]

Oh well, atleast you saved your tails.

SWA was never an airline I applied to or wanted to fly for (just facts, not to piss anyone off).. However, I was the minority at F9 that was PRO SWA during this whole RAH vs. SWA.. Hands down SWA would have been a better deal.

Actually, I do apologize for being a little "hard" on the RAH guys. They have no choice in the matter of who buys what. They are just pawns flying multi-million dollar aircraft for peanut wages and mediocre workrules. I just wish they would sally up and DEMAND what they are worth..

CYA