Michael Roberts

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TSA, when it comes to screening pilots, is a joke. The conversation always goes like this:

Pilot: " Why are you screening me?"
TSA:" We are trying to prevent someone from taking control of the airplane."
Pilot:"How will you prevent me from doing so, since I am the one flying the airplane?"
TSA: With a blank stare,a flicker of realization and loud voice: "I am keeping America safe!"
Pilot:" You have a good day now!"
 
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TSA, when it comes to screening pilots, is a joke. The conversation always goes like this:

Pilot: " Why are you screening me?"
TSA:" We are trying to prevent someone from taking control of the airplane."
Pilot:"How will you prevent me from doing so, since I am the one flying the airplane?"
TSA: With a blank stare,a flicker of realization and loud voice: "I am keeping America safe!"
Pilot:" You have a good day now!"

I might have to steal that and have it as my signature line.
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Am I the only one who thinks things may get worse for flight crews as a result of this?
 

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I completely agree with his stand on the issues....screening pilots is a four course meal in window dressing. There are medical issues here as well folks.

Has anyone ever asked the TSA why they have to pat you down after you go through their new high tech machine? Shouldn't it see all and know all?

Auburn Calloway? He should have been screened out of the interview process.

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I completely agree with his stand on the issues....screening pilots is a four course meal in window dressing. There are medical issues here as well folks.

Has anyone ever asked the TSA why they have to pat you down after you go through their new high tech machine? Shouldn't it see all and know all?

Auburn Calloway? He should have been screened out of the interview process.

A350

The problem was Auburn Calloway worked for Flying Tigers and lied on his application regarding Navy S-3 PIC time and who knows what else.

For those not familiar with the case,

Auburn got cute after the merger with FedEx and tried to crank call Fred Smith during an employee closed circuit t.v. program. A chief pilot decided to investigate his background and discovered the falsification. He was due to be terminated then decided to end his life while in company service. FedEx had a lucrative life insurance program, the catch would be he didn't want any postmortem evidence, hence the spear gun. His original plan called for him to carry out the attack during his original rotation, however he timed out and carried out the attack as a jumpseater making it 3 against 1.
 
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A little reminder.

After being shaken down for weapons by the TSA , we then sit two feet from a crash axe.

TSA screening for pilots is a waste of time.
 

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I watched TSA frisk down a marine the other day-they don't care who you are
 

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Our Chief pilot has had 3 calls from pilots complaining about about MEM TSA in recent days.
 

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i don't have any problems with the screening of pilots. how hard is it to replicate a pilot uniform and a little plastic badge? Which really raises other security concerns. These terrorist organizations have millions of dollars to work with, I sure then can shell out a few dollars to get a uniform and plastic card.
 

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i don't have any problems with the screening of pilots. how hard is it to replicate a pilot uniform and a little plastic badge? Which really raises other security concerns. These terrorist organizations have millions of dollars to work with, I sure then can shell out a few dollars to get a uniform and plastic card.

Bingo. While there should be a system to avoid this hassle (Crewpass), until then TSA screens everybody going into the secure area who doesn't have a local SIDA badge. Presumably you can't get into the cockpit with a mail-order uniform and home-made badge because the gate agent is supposed to check. But you can certainly get into the terminal. So all the arguments about "shaking down pilots" don't hold water. You have to look at the big picture. If they didn't do this, it would be laughably easy to get bombs/weapons onto the airplane just by dressing up like a pilot.
 

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Bingo. While there should be a system to avoid this hassle (Crewpass), until then TSA screens everybody going into the secure area who doesn't have a local SIDA badge. Presumably you can't get into the cockpit with a mail-order uniform and home-made badge because the gate agent is supposed to check. But you can certainly get into the terminal. So all the arguments about "shaking down pilots" don't hold water. You have to look at the big picture. If they didn't do this, it would be laughably easy to get bombs/weapons onto the airplane just by dressing up like a pilot.

I'm sorry but that's just stupid. FFDO's walk onto the plane with a gun. They have the same ID and uniform you do genius. Sheeple these days!
 

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i don't have any problems with the screening of pilots. how hard is it to replicate a pilot uniform and a little plastic badge? Which really raises other security concerns. These terrorist organizations have millions of dollars to work with, I sure then can shell out a few dollars to get a uniform and plastic card.

A little plastic badge? Well, go for broke then, make one up that says FBI, or even better Secret Service. There is no perfect system, however continously allowing liberty to be removed may make it a moot point.
 

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A little plastic badge? Well, go for broke then, make one up that says FBI, or even better Secret Service. There is no perfect system, however continously allowing liberty to be removed may make it a moot point.

...like the point of no return. slippery slope, it is.
 

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A little plastic badge? Well, go for broke then, make one up that says FBI, or even better Secret Service. There is no perfect system, however continously allowing liberty to be removed may make it a moot point.

What's your point i don't think they should have weapons on the airplanes either? The FBI and Secret Service have their own aircraft and if they want to take their guns they can take those planes.
 

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A little plastic badge? Well, go for broke then, make one up that says FBI, or even better Secret Service. There is no perfect system, however continously allowing liberty to be removed may make it a moot point.

In fact lets go for broke, one person already said it, the only way to make it 100% safe is to eliminate all planes period. Everyone will just go back to cars and boats and there is no need to worry about aircraft fatalities.
 

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i don't have any problems with the screening of pilots. how hard is it to replicate a pilot uniform and a little plastic badge? Which really raises other security concerns. These terrorist organizations have millions of dollars to work with, I sure then can shell out a few dollars to get a uniform and plastic card.


Your a dipsit that has no understanding of what a farce pilot screening is, Not difficult to verify if you are the one who PIC's the plane these days..
 

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Your a dipsit that has no understanding of what a farce pilot screening is, Not difficult to verify if you are the one who PIC's the plane these days..

A bad post.
 

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I think the whole point is, why do pilots have to go thru security. Doesn't anybody realize that a pilot can kill everybody on that plain without TSA seeing his junk? I can understand why the general public has to go thru security, and it's up to them what they put up with. But as pilots, where we have to go thru this everyday, it's getting ridiculous. And really makes no since.

And are you saying he doesn't have many kids?

What really scares me....nevermind.
 
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