xjlifer said:I bet they don't even give us a reach around...not even a tickle
Saabslime said:Any rumors about management looking to toss the Big Sky scope agreement so NWA can have their NEW low cost subsidiary to fly the 100 seater's?
Just curious as this seems to be the way things are headed when looking in from the outside.
FSIGRAD said:Kind of curious how my health insurance jumps from $150 a month to $250 the same day we declare BK......didn't make the headline at mymesaba.
Yudso said:My .understanding is that the scope agreement between the pilots and MAIR, therefore Mesaba can't touch it. Someone please tell me I'm right.
jpeace02 said:can someone seriously answer the question as to how mesaba aviation can be chptr.11 and holdings has over a 100 million?
Fly4hire said:Look at the rate of cash burn. The profits there were a "gift" from NWA to help show losses at the mainline. Both XJ andPCL were getting fuel subsidized at $0.80/gallon and empty seats paid for if it was feeding NWA. Look at Indy air to see your profits sans NWA subsidy.
That IS coming to an end with re-negotiated air service agreements. I'm sure XJ saw the writing on the wall and acted sooner thn later. Sort of like flying to a bad wx destination, holding, and making the bingo decision rather than pressing on and ending up low fuel or out of gas.
Focus: is this a self funded or DIP financed BK?
Fly4hire said:Focus: is this a self funded or DIP financed BK?
Monster Buck said:Our protection is in appendix f. 1) any new airline subsidiary of MAIR Holdings, Inc. will be staffed by pilots on the Mesaba Pilots' System Seniotity List: 2) ...use our contract 3). all Mesaba pilots get to bid first on the new co.'s positions. 4) all of new co. pilots must be put on Mesaba's pilots seniority list. Also Big Sky...shall not operate aircraft with greater than 19 seats.
In addition our scope in section 1. locks in Mesaba aviation to the scope. This section also covers our scope over successorship, transfer of co. aircraft or merger.
IMHO this is the only thing that stopped the new crj going to Big Sky.
I hope our MEC is ready to throw down