Mesa pilots in PHX with plywood boards?

[coltsfn8888]

I apologize to the Mesa pilots for lmfao at this thread.

 

[check6]

I'm glad we have solved the problem, even though I never intend on working for Mesa and don't condone their management. Wood someone figure out the answer to the original question on this thread? Why were the pilots carrying the planks? Sleeping on a plank would hurt my ASH by the time dawn rolled around.

 

[Captain X]

Any wonder why the PROFESSIONAL pilots here are willing to walk away?

But we've yet to see any pilots walk away en masse. Only threats and saber rattling.

Everyone keeps saying that someone needs to take one for the team, but no one is willing to be the first ones to do it.

As long as that is the case you can bet who will ALWAYS have the upper hand.

 

[Soverytired]

But we've yet to see any pilots walk away en masse. Only threats and saber rattling.

Everyone keeps saying that someone needs to take one for the team, but no one is willing to be the first ones to do it.

As long as that is the case you can bet who will ALWAYS have the upper hand.

No sheet.

Frankly, I think you have to hand it to the NWA flight attendants. They're the only airline labor group that isn't just threatening a strike, but has actively and publicly fighting for the right to do so. They're SERIOUS about it, as opposed to , say, every pilot group that's gotten raped over the past 5 years.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Only one poster mentioned fatigue. That tells me if the non mesa types were put into the same situation, they would probanly crater or quit.... which doesn't solve the problem....

 

[Prop2Jet]

If this is really because they will not get hotels for stand ups then MESA MANAGEMENT SUCKS AZZ. YOU PEOPLE ARE THE INDUSTRY DEVIL-BURN IN HELL. (please note that I am talking about the management not the pilots)

 

[AWACO]

If this is really because they will not get hotels for stand ups then MESA MANAGEMENT SUCKS AZZ. YOU PEOPLE ARE THE INDUSTRY DEVIL-BURN IN HELL. (please note that I am talking about the management not the pilots)

I blame the pilots, if they wouldnt work under those conditions mgmt would not expect it!

 

[crashpad]

These are just hard times and everyones' learning to adjust. Things will get better. Management will see the light and equip all the chimp jets with 'pull-out boards' for sleeping, upward spraying toilets for quick showers and spray on Ozium so the crew can last for days without having to go home.


LONG LIVE MESA!!!!!

 

[starcheck1]

every pilot group that's gotten raped over the past 5 years.

I don't belive we were raped.....I think "slightly molested" is more correct.

 

[Sam Snead]

Maybe I am reading this wrong but WTF is with doing 4 legs on a redeye pairing??? That is just plain stupid and not safe. At ExpressJet it is 2 legs maximum and they limit the sit time. Usually LAX to somewhere in Mexico and then IAH. Most redeye pairings are 1 leg and you are done. There is no way that you guys are safe if you are doing 4 legs. That is complete BS and you should call in Fatigued! I know I wouldn't be getting on that PHX-TUS flight or the TUS-LAS as a passenger....

Yet it's done every day....

It will only change when one of these crews is up front when someone gets killed.

 

[waverider]

It's a sad state of affairs when that's what it would take to affect positive change. Can someone tell me if the FAA is aware of what's going on?

 

[supsup]

I've got a solution. If you don't like it quit. Work some place else.

supsup

 

[TheGuat]

It's a sad state of affairs when that's what it would take to affect positive change. Can someone tell me if the FAA is aware of what's going on?

Why would the FAA care? It's not illegal what they are doing.

 

[DirkkDiggler]

Why would the FAA care? It's not illegal what they are doing.

No the FAA wouldn't care, but I'll be the Arizona Republic may be interested to hear how the pilots of the aircraft flying out of Phoenix are living while they're on the road. I can't imagine the shock value that article would have. Anonymously written of course!

 

[siucavflight]

No the FAA wouldn't care, but I'll be the Arizona Republic may be interested to hear how the pilots of the aircraft flying out of Phoenix are living while they're on the road. I can't imagine the shock value that article would have. Anonymously written of course!

Yes, now, I would like to see that happen.

 

[johndt]

You don't have to quit. Just call in fatigued every time. You -know- it's not safe, so don't do it. One day your luck is going to run out, the worst is going to happen, and you're going to be too tired to get yourself and your trusting pax out of it alive.

CALL IN FATIGUED. Be a professional. And demand to be treated as such.

 

[Sam Snead]

No the FAA wouldn't care, but I'll be the Arizona Republic may be interested to hear how the pilots of the aircraft flying out of Phoenix are living while they're on the road. I can't imagine the shock value that article would have. Anonymously written of course!

How about having the Arizona Republic read this thread? Seriously. All they need is a lead.

 

[Sam Snead]

You don't have to quit. Just call in fatigued every time. You -know- it's not safe, so don't do it. One day your luck is going to run out, the worst is going to happen, and you're going to be too tired to get yourself and your trusting pax out of it alive.

CALL IN FATIGUED. Be a professional. And demand to be treated as such.

How would calling in fatiqued work? If you're ON the trip, you've already ACCEPTED the trip... so I guess by this rationale, you could never accept the trip in the first place. Which only thousands of your peers already have without formal complaint.

Unless you know of any formal complaints, which I don't.

 

[waverider]

How about having the Arizona Republic read this thread? Seriously. All they need is a lead.

Good call.

 

[fried chickens]

You don't have to quit. Just call in fatigued every time. You -know- it's not safe, so don't do it. One day your luck is going to run out, the worst is going to happen, and you're going to be too tired to get yourself and your trusting pax out of it alive.

CALL IN FATIGUED. Be a professional. And demand to be treated as such.

Call in fatigued after being on duty for less than 10 hrs?