Mesa pilots in PHX with plywood boards?

[lowlycfi]

Because it's not true.

Why bother?

Ditto.

 

[RSRVWINDSURFR]

If you have to ask, you must be board.

Nicely done, sir!

 

[Beantown]

X9746 ONLY ON THU BSE REPT: 1718L OPERATES- OCT. 05 ONLY Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su
Base/Equipment: PHX/CR9 CA01FO01 -

TH 2815 PHX-OKC 1803 2208 205 206 3CR9
TH 2799 OKC-LAS 2238 2324 246 242 CR9 451 0 448 0 621 LA2234 -
7462 D-END: 2339L (NR 900) REPT: 2213L ST. TROPEZ (702) 369-5400 000 -- -- -- -- -- --
FR 2886 LASIAH 22580406 308 253 1154
SA 2783 IAH-PHX 0600 0640 240 256 55 CR9
SA 2819 PHX-TUS 0735 0825 50 46 45 CR9
SA 2972 TUS-LAS 0910 1028 118 116 CR9 756 0 751 0 1230 LAS 1228
7463 D-END: 1043L (NR 900) REPT: 2311L ST. TROPEZ (702) 369-5400 000
SA 2835 LAS-TUS 2356 0116 120 116 CR9 120 0 116 0 220 TUS 1219
7464 D-END: 0131L (NR 900) REPT: 1350L LaQuinta Inn (520) 573-3333 SHUTTLE 000
SU 2944 TUS-PHX 1435 1524 49 49 104 CR9
SU 2910 PHX-DEN 1628 1916 148 147 37 CR9
SU 2911 DEN-PHX 1953 2046 153 152 CR9 430 0 428 1 711
D-END: 2101L --------------------------------------
TOTALS BLOCK 1837 DHD 0 CREDIT 1823 18.38 T.A.F.B. 7543
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Hear is an example of a Mesa camping trip. Sorry that is didn't transfer well. If you notice, the crew gets into IAH at 4:06 and leaves at 6 am. Let me ask this question. Does your contract prevent your company from building a trip like this? Woud you get a hotel for the 1:54 minute turn? -Bean

 

[snap145]

This cannot possinly be true..who can show where it says that in theyre contract....youve got to be kidding me....im sorry i dont believe it. IF THERE IS ANYONE ON HERE FROM MAG WHO IS SICK OF GETTING POUNDED IN THE TWO HOLE BY SLEEPING IN A FREAKING RJ ON A HIGHSPEED, PLEASE SHOW ME A COPY OF WHERE THIS IS STATED IN YOUR CONTRACT....THIS CANNOT BE TRUE

 

[Beantown]

This cannot possinly be true..who can show where it says that in theyre contract....youve got to be kidding me....im sorry i dont believe it. IF THERE IS ANYONE ON HERE FROM MAG WHO IS SICK OF GETTING POUNDED IN THE TWO HOLE BY SLEEPING IN A FREAKING RJ ON A HIGHSPEED, PLEASE SHOW ME A COPY OF WHERE THIS IS STATED IN YOUR CONTRACT....THIS CANNOT BE TRUE

English please -Bean

 

[Richard Gozinya]

Come on, come on! I can't believe the apparent symbolism on this.

"Mesa management is making us lay on their MORNING WOOD!"

Dick

 

[doug_or]

Actually, if you are on the CRJ, I can give you a tip so you don't have to look as pitiful as you are carrying around plywood boards. You can remove the seat cushion from one row, and then place it between the two aisle seats of another row. You can't sit on it, but it will give you enough a$$ support while lying down. It's gotta be more comfortable than plyboard.

The extra comfort should give you room to grow some balls..

Might be wrong, but I thought the board was to support a middle cushion.

 

[ReverseSensing]

Hear is an example of a Mesa camping trip. Sorry that is didn't transfer well. If you notice, the crew gets into IAH at 4:06 and leaves at 6 am. Let me ask this question. Does your contract prevent your company from building a trip like this? Woud you get a hotel for the 1:54 minute turn? -Bean

Beantown makes a good point. If this is an example of what Mesa "camping trips" are like, I suspect everyone is over-reacting.

If QX did red-eyes with 2-3 hour "productivity breaks," we'd be waiting (sleeping/camping) in the terminal/crew room/aircraft, too. I thought this thread was about CDO's, but apparently Mesa has basically the same CDO provisions as everyone else.

But hey, keep the "wood" jokes coming. Plank you.

 

[Instigator]

Bean,

Thanks for posting your perspective and the pairing copy. The situation makes a lot more sense now. Let me rephrase that, it still doesn't make sense (except to J.O.), but I understand it better.

Oak-kay?

 

[rickair7777]

The camping trips at Mesa are NOT cdos. They are night trips with a sit (usually around 2.5 hrs). Mesa crews get hotels for cdos just like everyone else. This flying is out of LAS and are redeyes. They are not one day trips. They are part of 3 or 4 day trips that involve multiple legs.

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??? I used to do them all the time...95% were one day deals...

1830 PHX.TUS (Quick Turn)
TUS.LAS (2 Hour Sit, change planes)
LAS.AUS (3-4 Hour Sit/nap)
AUS. PHX 0730

Instead of AUS, might be SAT, GEG, SLC, PDX, etc. Note that the company makes D%MN sure that the sit is 3:59 max...if it hits 4 hours they have to get a hotel for each crewmember $$$$$

The problem here is that back in PHX domicile it's almost impossible to get good rest during the day...too many distractions.

 

[pgcfii2002]

Speaking of wood...I jumped one of the mannequins at Mervyns yesterday.

 

[ReverseSensing]

Speaking of wood...I jumped one of the mannequins at Mervyns yesterday.

Did you break him?

 

[ReportCanoa]

Was he anatomically correct?

 

[30West]

How many hours between flights is YOUR airline required, by contract, to provide a hotel to you?

Colgan

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Contract?

 

[inthewind]

This makes me wanna drag J.O. around the terminal by his f***ing neck. Then on a CDO I'd lay him out on the floor with a shot to the jaw. Then I'd sleep on his dead corpse. F***'n bast*rd.

I wanna drag him around the terminal by something that sorta ryhmes with neck but in his case is much shorter

 

[azpilot]

X9746 ONLY ON THU BSE REPT: 1718L OPERATES- OCT. 05 ONLY Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su
Base/Equipment: PHX/CR9 CA01FO01 -


FR 2886 LASIAH 22580406 308 253 1154
SA 2783 IAH-PHX 0600 0640 240 256 55 CR9
SA 2819 PHX-TUS 0735 0825 50 46 45 CR9
SA 2972 TUS-LAS 0910 1028 118 116 CR9 756 0 751 0 1230 LAS 1228

Hear is an example of a Mesa camping trip. Sorry that is didn't transfer well. If you notice, the crew gets into IAH at 4:06 and leaves at 6 am. Let me ask this question. Does your contract prevent your company from building a trip like this? Woud you get a hotel for the 1:54 minute turn? -Bean

Maybe I am reading this wrong but WTF is with doing 4 legs on a redeye pairing??? That is just plain stupid and not safe. At ExpressJet it is 2 legs maximum and they limit the sit time. Usually LAX to somewhere in Mexico and then IAH. Most redeye pairings are 1 leg and you are done. There is no way that you guys are safe if you are doing 4 legs. That is complete BS and you should call in Fatigued! I know I wouldn't be getting on that PHX-TUS flight or the TUS-LAS as a passenger....

 

[Propsync]

Was in PHX recently and saw a few Mesa pilots carrying around plywood boards with the rest of their stuff. What's up with the plywood?

I guess even the Bushwackers need some extra money signing autographs during turns. Funny, I didn't even know they were pilots.

 

[VABB]

Why do people continue to work for these places?? Even long-haul truck drivers have better working conditions (bed and mattress) than this - and they make a lot more money too.

 

[Junkflyer]

Chalk it up to SJS.

 

[Count Dracula]

Its obvious that you know nothing about mesa's pilots or the old F8. its usually the the one's that dont know that bietch the most.

Yea, I know nothing about Mesa. I just lost my job at an ALPA Regional due to their lowballing tactics ten years ago. You've made progress since then, heh? Flying RJ's instead of 1900's with 1988 work rules....zilch. Don't wrinkle your shirt while on hot reserve or trying to catch some zzzz's in 1A on a 3 hour break between flights.