Memphis dead...Sorry 9E

[Data]

Memphis became the new Cinncinatti once Delta bought NWA. Is this really a surprise...or news?

Ummm, Cincinnati didn't become Cincinnati until after Delta bought NWA. How about Cincinnati and Memphis are the new Pittsburghs!

 

[xjhawk]

that last post is spot on. How long before some regional makes an announcement that they are getting those 76 seaters from Delta and in the same announcement are opening a JFK and/or LGA base for them? One of the items in the Pinnacle bankruptcy is to open a "new york" base-I am assuming that is not for new planes, but for the 900's that are now based in MEM. Why have a pilot base in a city that you do not have many or any flights out of? Or for that matter, why have a headquarters and training in a city where there are hardly any flights to get your people in and out of? There are many reasons for this bankruptcy-get rid of the United flying-US Airways flying (all for Delta I would think)-lose the downtown MEM headquarters (expensive lease and inconvenient location for operational reasons)-cut pilot pay and work rules-and the most important for Delta is the ability to lose 140+ crj 200 leases.

 

[CRJ puppy]

Ummm, Cincinnati didn't become Cincinnati until after Delta bought NWA. How about Cincinnati and Memphis are the new Pittsburghs!

That's not correct.

The CVG downsizing started in 2005, prior to bankruptcy with the introduction of "Simplifares" and the initial "right sizing" of the hub.

It's been a steady pull down since then.

 

[cbrown1]

Ummm, Cincinnati didn't become Cincinnati until after Delta bought NWA. How about Cincinnati and Memphis are the new Pittsburghs!

Cincinnati has been on a steady decline for the last seven years. Reality really started to set in when Comair shut down it's terminal. Memphis on the other hand had international flights up until a year or two ago.

So is Memphis down to 25 flights total or just dci?

 

[higney85]

Cincinnati has been on a steady decline for the last seven years. Reality really started to set in when Comair shut down it's terminal. Memphis on the other hand had international flights up until a year or two ago.

So is Memphis down to 25 flights total or just dci?

Roughly 125/day overall through delta and DCI's. The peak was roughly 300/day under the red and white NWA colors for reference. Total DCI hours in Mem are fluctuating in their normal monthly amounts overall but there are less for 9E and more for ASA (expressjet). 9E is getting more hours up north...

 

[CRJ puppy]

Cincinnati has been on a steady decline for the last seven years. Reality really started to set in when Comair shut down it's terminal. Memphis on the other hand had international flights up until a year or two ago.

So is Memphis down to 25 flights total or just dci?

The 25 the OP refers to is total SATURDAY departures. As we all know Saturdays are cut way back system wide but are particularly bad in MEM and CVG.

Also both hubs still have one international flight per day. AMS for MEM and CDG for CVG. We all thought they both would go a long time ago...

Currently about 135 departures/day in CVG except on Saturdays. Down from CVG's peak of 650-700/day!

 

[higney85]

The 25 the OP refers to is total SATURDAY departures. As we all know Saturdays are cut way back system wide but are particularly bad in MEM and CVG.

Also both hubs still have one international flight per day. AMS for MEM and CDG for CVG. We all thought they both would go a long time ago...

Currently about 135 departures/day in CVG except on Saturdays. Down from CVG's peak of 650-700/day!

It took years for me to recall that back in school "Delta" simply meant change. Being that I live in MEM I am bias towards the change, but it is what it is.