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I cant speak for a pilot but from a mechanics point of view... An airplane is an airplane is an airplane. I work on the barbie jet variety and if I am able to keep my job/QOL for 20+ years that would be fantastic. What is wrong with being happy with where you are?

In pilot circles, 10+ years at a regional is considered a career failure and instantly throws up red flags about your competency and character. There's a big stigma as to why you didn't make it to a major.
 
In pilot circles, 10+ years at a regional is considered a career failure and instantly throws up red flags about your competency and character. There's a big stigma as to why you didn't make it to a major.

Brilliant. Especially with the tremendous pace of all the hiring at the majors for the last 10 + years. Only a complete stooge would still be at a regional after the most recent 10+years... is american still running 50+ a month? Delta 40+ a month, SWA 60+?,, oh, no wait... that was 15 years ago.
 
Brilliant. Especially with the tremendous pace of all the hiring at the majors for the last 10 + years. Only a complete stooge would still be at a regional after the most recent 10+years... is american still running 50+ a month? Delta 40+ a month, SWA 60+?,, oh, no wait... that was 15 years ago.

Didn't say I agreed with it. But I have been on the receiving end of a talking down to in many jumpseats over the years. I just smile and don't give a crap about what anyone thinks or says.
 
Didn't say I agreed with it. But I have been on the receiving end of a talking down to in many jumpseats over the years. I just smile and don't give a crap about what anyone thinks or says.

You know what works in that situation? Tell them to go F-CK themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I cant speak for a pilot but from a mechanics point of view... An airplane is an airplane is an airplane. I work on the barbie jet variety and if I am able to keep my job/QOL for 20+ years that would be fantastic. What is wrong with being happy with where you are?

Nothing...Only you know what's best for you and yours. I have my game plan that I'm trying to carry out, but I'm not judging anybody else.
 
I cant speak for a pilot but from a mechanics point of view... An airplane is an airplane is an airplane. I work on the barbie jet variety and if I am able to keep my job/QOL for 20+ years that would be fantastic. What is wrong with being happy with where you are?[/QUOTE

Not that I'm there yet.... But 100k a year 4 vaction slots... you chose every month what days you want off. Hmmm, I can't blame the top 20% of regional pilots staying where they are. Not many jobs that you can take almost 2 months off every year and enjoy an incredible QOL. The people bitching are the junior folks.
 
In pilot circles, 10+ years at a regional is considered a career failure and instantly throws up red flags about your competency and character. There's a big stigma as to why you didn't make it to a major.

Maybe some guy you jump seated with does but most airline HR's know the hiring trends of the last 10 years.Why do you think PIC time is being dropped by some airlines.It opens up hiring to some younger folks the HR people may want to consider.They don't want to hire a bunch of 40/45 yr olds they want 28 yr olds too.
 
There have been a number of cruise shakers lately. Long legs, long days, short nights, no auto-throttles? I heard they stalled at F340, they fought the pusher three times and on the third they flamed out. Trying a relight without sufficient airflow could core-lock the engine.

Why oh why do people not climb out in speed mode?
 
Why oh why do people not climb out in speed mode?

Here at ASA, most Captains will tell you to switch to V/S at the slightest bit of oscillation. Heard that gets hammered out when they head to mainline, where I believe most legacies prohibit V/S climb
 
SPD mode blows in Challengers, just like its cousin FLCH blows in Citations. Get a good change in wind direction/velocity or ISA temp and the roller coaster begins.

But it is more idiot-proof than climbing at a set IAS/Mach.

Climbing in VS isn't remotely unsafe so long as the two pilots in the cockpit are doing their jobs and paying attention to the airplane.
 
I preffer Speed Mode in a climb, with Turb. mode engaged. Works like a champ. Only need to be on the lookout in the mid 20s for a climb rate less than 500fpm. Its more accurate and precise than fumbling V/S mode all the way through the climb, while flying a fluctuating climb speed of +/- 10 knots.
 
Because being dead on the bucket for some random, arbitrary climb speed is more important than passenger comfort.
 
The CRJ is not meant to go much above 280 -310.... Pushing it up to 340 (or as the PNCL guys did) max alt. is a very risky plan... Unless empty with min fuel, it just isn't powerful enough. Period....

Lemme tell ya for those that want the badge of honor, there is no real difference between cruising around at 280 or 380.... You don't enter some time/space continuem(sp?), the Earth doesn't look more curved. You can't see Mars from up there, and there aren't little Martian guys flying around... Be a professional and fly the a/c like it is meant to be flown... Not like a test pilot out for a Sunday stroll. People, families, READ: Kids are on board. You are there for their safety, not for your enjoyement or so you can tell your buddy from flight school that you've been to the upper 30's....
 
So why no accident report on this? Does the FAA not want the public to know how unsafe they really are?

What's the deal? Publish it, including the CVR, no matter how bad it is.
 
The CRJ is not meant to go much above 280 -310.... Pushing it up to 340 (or as the PNCL guys did) max alt. is a very risky plan... Unless empty with min fuel, it just isn't powerful enough. Period....

Not sure if serious...?

The CRJ-200 flies just fine in the mid-30s, you just 1. have to keep speed on the wing during the climb, and 2. it takes you a good long while to get there.

Sure the plane is underpowered, and high ISA temps combined with heavy weights give it the 'climb restricted jet' moniker. But for farks sake, its not like the plane is teetering in coffin corner at FL340 or even higher, where only Chuck Yeager and Tim Martins dare to fly it.

Don't let the swept wing get slow and it'll be just fine.

Lemme tell ya for those that want the badge of honor, there is no real difference between cruising around at 280 or 380....
Probably just a thousand pounds per hour of fuel.
 
Just got refiled today for a pack deferral.....difference between FL 330 and 250 was 140lbs. That's it......about $70 of fuel that UA, DL, AA pays anyway. That's it! Altitude in the CRJ200 is almost immaterial. Why bother???
 
I preffer Speed Mode in a climb, with Turb. mode engaged. Works like a champ. Only need to be on the lookout in the mid 20s for a climb rate less than 500fpm. Its more accurate and precise than fumbling V/S mode all the way through the climb, while flying a fluctuating climb speed of +/- 10 knots.

Are you on the -700/900? The -200, when heavy (yea yea, it's relative) and isa + anything over "0" doesn't play well in speed mode above about FL180. VS out of 10K with a reduction above FL180-210 down to 1.0/then.7/final of .5 (depending on weight and ISA) keeps you at 290/.74 (slowing to .70 into the 30's) has worked well over the last 4K+ hours in my personal opinion.
 
Just got refiled today for a pack deferral.....difference between FL 330 and 250 was 140lbs. That's it......about $70 of fuel that UA, DL, AA pays anyway. That's it! Altitude in the CRJ200 is almost immaterial. Why bother???

What is not immaterial is ($70/flight x 365) x 500 flts/day = $12,775,000/yr.

Almost worse case scenario but it's still a lot of coin. It's a pass through cost so it doesn't matter...right? Well, until you get hired at mainline.
 
Because being dead on the bucket for some random, arbitrary climb speed is more important than passenger comfort.

I hear this argument all the time and I think it's irrelevant like the flight spoilers argument. Jet vs prop is a difference passengers can feel. Passengers don't notice small oscillations from speed mode in the climb or the slight rumble from speed brakes.

Even I can't remember myself ever thinking after a flight that the pilot oscillated too much during the climb or I was uncomfortable from flight spoiler noise.
 
I notice them both when in the back. Especially flight spoilers. I can not stand over use of those things. Some guys even use then with power in. Where does the company find these bozo's?
 
Because being dead on the bucket for some random, arbitrary climb speed is more important than passenger comfort.

Are you dead in the head???? What is the difference between an adjustment in v/s with speed mode and v/s???? The nose is gonna'move either way..........

I'm on the CRJ-200, for the previous poster that wanted to know. One thing I didn't mention- I use v/s mode to get myself roughly established on my climb speed. Then I Speed Mode it with Turb Mode on. Nice climb with no oscillating or fingering the MCP...
 
I notice them both when in the back.

Me too...and more non-pilot passengers than many flight crews realize.

Its not the noise from flight spoilers that gets passengers' attention - its the associated airframe rumble. Almost as startling to pax as the 12 gauge that goes off in the floor when 90% of CR2s put their landing gear down, or the stupid pumps that whir on an Airbus.

But if ya need the boards, use the boards...just please put them in slowly, one notch at a time, vs. the straight pull to full spoilers that many oblivious pilots seem to do.
 

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