Major intentions for regionals

[JumpersAway]

Several years ago, I was of the opinion that the regional airlines would eventually be absorbed by their mainline partners. However the more I look at it, and the more I think about it, I highly doubt this to be true. Even if this were to occur, by the time it did, most of the pilots will have already made the move, and those that stayed at a regional would find themselves being absorbed to the bottom of a VERY long list. In short- much better to just get out at the first opportunity, long before this scenario becomes an option.

Truthfully, I think the major airlines will eventually have to absorb the 76 seat flying, in order to cover this market. It is my opinion, that in order to attract pilots, there will have to be a mainline carrot. I feel that the majors will look long and hard at hiring their own pilots to fill these vacancies, as the 76 seaters come off contract with their regional partners. We will see which airline does this first, but I'm convinced the days of the large RJ's at regional partners is growing darker by the year.

 

[Mercyful Fate]

Several years ago, I was of the opinion that the regional airlines would eventually be absorbed by their mainline partners. However the more I look at it, and the more I think about it, I highly doubt this to be true. Even if this were to occur, by the time it did, most of the pilots will have already made the move, and those that stayed at a regional would find themselves being absorbed to the bottom of a VERY long list. In short- much better to just get out at the first opportunity, long before this scenario becomes an option.

Truthfully, I think the major airlines will eventually have to absorb the 76 seat flying, in order to cover this market. It is my opinion, that in order to attract pilots, there will have to be a mainline carrot. I feel that the majors will look long and hard at hiring their own pilots to fill these vacancies, as the 76 seaters come off contract with their regional partners. We will see which airline does this first, but I'm convinced the days of the large RJ's at regional partners is growing darker by the year.

Majors have bigger fish to fry than to worry about taking on the less than 100 seat market..If anything, I would be willing to bet you see regionals continuing to fill this niche...

 

[Freebrd]

Yeah, DL is getting 88 of them, and you have no chance of flying any of them. Vietnam may be calling you again, this time right seat on an ATR-72.



Bye Bye---General Lee

Cool....I'll go back, it was fun. Especially w/ the opposite sex, of which you know nothing of you putz!

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

There was a guy at the last AeroCrew job fair wearing cowboy boots....bet he doesn't get a call for the interview...

 

[General Lee]

Yes, and no. The E-175s are going on "premium" routes, but the CR9's are still staying west coast. Have you paid attention to SEA lately? There's where all of the shifted assets are going.

And they can keep LAX-SFO. As if dealing with UA to SFO wasn't bad enough.

Uhhhhh, the plan will be more of your CR9s will be moving back to SLC routes, as Compass fills in more North to South West Coast. The President of Delta stated the plan was to eliminate single class cabins at the SLC hub within the next couple years, meaning fewer 50 seaters. And, rumors abound that some 717s may find their way West, with the first two flights recently announced to LAX from AUS. More will likely follow, and that should help move planes back to SLC.


Btw, DL deals with UA all over the World, and they add service where they think they can make money and take market share. I think they can figure it out...



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Cool....I'll go back, it was fun. Especially w/ the opposite sex, of which you know nothing of you putz!

So, what was his name? Have fun, lady! :0


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Majors have bigger fish to fry than to worry about taking on the less than 100 seat market..If anything, I would be willing to bet you see regionals continuing to fill this niche...

Well look, Mercy ACTUALLY tries to contribute with an opinion. The regionals will fill the niche if they can find enough crews after the Captains get hired away and if they can bring newhires in to replace outgoing crews. It will be very expensive for the Regionals, each outgoing Capt will necessitates an upgrade to replace him/her, and a newhire to replace the FO who is upgrading. There will be 15,000 openings to higher paying and better benefit (including retirement fund) jobs.

Will the legacies bring the regionals into the fold? Only if it is cheaper and the mainline pilots allow it. The contract says otherwise and so far the mainline managements prefer the whipsaw for lower costs.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[AntiJedi]

The President of Delta stated the plan was to eliminate single class cabins at the SLC hub within the next couple years, meaning fewer 50 seaters.

Under contract, which says nothing of at-risk. According to Delta, the E-120 doesn't exist, either.

Btw, DL deals with UA all over the World, and they add service where they think they can make money and take market share. I think they can figure it out...

Which says to me that you have no idea what I meant by what I said.

 

[General Lee]

Under contract, which says nothing of at-risk. According to Delta, the E-120 doesn't exist, either.



Which says to me that you have no idea what I meant by what I said.

Your props to SUN are around because currently they are the largest plane you have that can fly in there. Your "at risk" flying is just that, and DL obviously didn't have faith in some of that, or it wouldn't be "at risk." Fingers crossed!

The interesting thing with UAL is that they too are discovering the same thing RA has figured out, and Doug Parker too, and that is 50 seaters are too expensive. (Look at CLE for example). Hopefully you don't have too many.... Wait, wait, never mind.....

As far as dealing with UA, most SKW pilots I talk to like the DL flying compared to the UA side. It's a better run operation at the hubs supposedly.

Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[rtmcfi]

Your props to SUN are around because currently they are the largest plane you have that can fly in there.

Bye Bye---General Lee

Umm, WRONG!

Check today's schedule SLC-SUN. You guys have outsourced so much of your flying you can't keep track. Debate that, master.

 

[Freebrd]

. And, rumors abound that some 717s may find their way West, with the first two flights recently announced to LAX from AUS. More will likely follow, and that should help move planes back to SLC.
Bye Bye---General Lee

Deltahhh has Boeing 717s? When did that happen? C'mon Jenny, you usually let us know things like this, you know, Deltahhh getting 787s, 777s, but man, you must have dropped the ball on the 717s. Who knew?

 

[Freebrd]

So, what was his name? Have fun, lady! :0
Bye Bye---General Lee

Wow that's rich Jenny, weak, but rich. Putz!

 

[Freebrd]

Well look, Mercy ACTUALLY tries to contribute with an opinion. Bye Bye---General Lee

Of course Mercy does putz! It's your alter ego, but keep playing it. You are really a fool, putz.

 

[Kaman]

Saw DL 717 in EWR yesterday....

 

[Freebrd]

Was it a Deltahhh Connection bird, or the big boy airline bird? I know Jenny says Deltahhh has 717s but most of her crap, well, is crap, or copied & pasted many many times. But, 717s at Deltahhh, wow, that would be huge.