LUV posts 4th quarter/full year profit.

[Hamburger]

Pay to Play as they say.

Yes. That is exactly what they say.

It's just an $8000 pitcher of Kool-Aid.
Initiation ritual as it were.

Think about all the Chumps that dished out the cash and didn't get the job.

 

[MILPILOT17]

Yes. That is exactly what they say.

It's just an $8000 pitcher of Kool-Aid.
Initiation ritual as it were.

Think about all the Chumps that dished out the cash and didn't get the job.

Think about all the people that "dished out" the cash and got hired; it's called risk! I know plenty of people who got the conditional hire prior to having the type. It then becomes a no-brainer! Take all the emotion out and look at it from an investment stand-point. You'll make that money back in one month on second year pay. Plain and simple, it's an investment in a good financial future. By the way, as with most things in life the kool-aid comes unsweetened; add as much sugar as you like?

 

[FlyinGuy]

Just think about all the guys that could care less if you think SWA is a PFT outfit!!!!

 

[MILPILOT17]

Just think about all the guys that could care less if you think SWA is a PFT outfit!!!!

That's a valid point as well

 

[Whataburger]

Back in the day when I was doing the airline application, a requirement was that I had a 4-year degree. I paid for that!

Next question?

My app. said I had to read, speak, and understand the English language. I had to pay for that.

 

[mt2]

Nice work SWA. IIRC less than 6 months ago Gary was saying a Q4 loss was a no-brainer. Hopefully the positive momentum continues into 2010 and growth returns so us poolies can quit treading water !!

 

[Hamburger]

Just think about all the guys that could care less if you think SWA is a PFT outfit!!!!

True. Just about the same as number of Gulfstreamers that care about what I think of their "investment", I reckon.

 

[Skyboy722]

Think about all the Chumps that dished out the cash and didn't get the job.

Oh, OK. You're one of them. I get it.

 

[StopNTSing]

Nice work SWA. IIRC less than 6 months ago Gary was saying a Q4 loss was a no-brainer. Hopefully the positive momentum continues into 2010 and growth returns so us poolies can quit treading water !!

I'm sure all the labor groups having since ratified new contracts has nothing whatsoever to do with the new outlook. That said, growth would certainly be a good thing. Hope you can get the rest of the way on board soon.

 

[StaySeated]

Yea, that's it! SWA actually lost money and just found a way to report a profit so they could pay some more taxes.

Alright that was funny.

Congrats to the SWA folks. When will at least one other airline management team realize the benefit of having happy employees. Divide and conquer has not worked one time in this industry.

 

[DX Jake]

I'm sure all the labor groups having since ratified new contracts has nothing whatsoever to do with the new outlook. That said, growth would certainly be a good thing. Hope you can get the rest of the way on board soon.

Not all of them. imp:

 

[StopNTSing]

Not all of them. imp:

You're right. I stand corrected. Best of luck with your negotiations.

 

[DX Jake]

You're right. I stand corrected. Best of luck with your negotiations.

Tanks :beer:

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

I am a proud SWA pilot who wishes the type requirement would go away. Ive seen to many good guys get turned down (many have seen this). With an interview process as imperfect as it is, its not fair to ask someone to shell that out.

If we took the type question off the application, eliminated it from how interviewees are chosen, and disallowed interviewers from considering the possession of the type in the selection process, I have not much problem with requiring the type AFTER the job offer. Its easily paid back when 1st year pay is compared to peer airlines. It needs to be removed from the selection process.

Sending guys out to drop 8K so they have a "better chance" is wrong in my opinion.

For the record, I bought mine before the interview and was hired the first time around. It takes MANY guys 2 or 3 tries. Too many. In most cases, it is more likely that SWA is mistakenly over looking them on their first attempt, rather than them "changing for the better" and becoming "worthy" before their subsequent interviews. This wastes our time and money, and theirs.

 

[rajflyboy]

I am a proud SWA pilot who wishes the type requirement would go away. Ive seen to many good guys get turned down (many have seen this). With an interview process as imperfect as it is, its not fair to ask someone to shell that out.

If we took the type question off the application, eliminated it from how interviewees are chosen, and disallowed interviewers from considering the possession of the type in the selection process, I have not much problem with requiring the type AFTER the job offer. Its easily paid back when 1st year pay is compared to peer airlines. It needs to be removed from the selection process.

Sending guys out to drop 8K so they have a "better chance" is wrong in my opinion.

For the record, I bought mine before the interview and was hired the first time around. It takes MANY guys 2 or 3 tries. Too many. In most cases, it is more likely that SWA is mistakenly over looking them on their first attempt, rather than them "changing for the better" and becoming "worthy" before their subsequent interviews. This wastes our time and money, and theirs.

Thanks for posting what I really believe is the truth! If "Buying" a type is required for the job SWA should at least interview and hire BEFORE the pilot goes and spends this money. I'd have a lot less heartburn if they did it this way.