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Cptn2b

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I am a low time CFI (350) at a university..Im not getting any multi time and it looks like it will be forever before I do. Have a friend who found a doctor that wanted him to fly his Baron...for for no pay but has built a lot of time doing it. I am willing to work for cheap or even free to build multi, anybody know what the best way to find these types of gigs is?
 

KeroseneSnorter

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If you are riding along with a guy that is a pilot and he lets you fly it, free would be O.K. If the cheapskate is riding around in the back or is not a pilot, it should pay. (Your Doctor story sounded like one of the not O.K. ones.)
 

Photoflight

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how long have you been instructing?
 

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Cptn2b said:
not long but thats not the point of the question.
I think that was the point of the question for you. Be patient and pay your dues like everyone else. Once you have 135 mins there will be plenty of opportunity to get twin time hauling some boxes/checks around.
 

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Just for everyones information...there are people who get places without being a CFI for 1000 hours..everyone on this whole freakin site seems to use the same stupid "pay your dues line".
 

moonlight

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That's because it's true...
Once you get a 1000 hrs. under your belt, you'll agree.
 

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Cptn2b said:
Just for everyones information...there are people who get places without being a CFI for 1000 hours..everyone on this whole freakin site seems to use the same stupid "pay your dues line".
Hey you sound like a perfect candidate for the new regionals, willing to work for free and wants to skip all the hassles of actually getting experience.

I hear G O Jets is hiring, you can add union busting to the resume as well!;)



Slow down and enjoy the ride, There is plenty of time to be screwed over and over by aviation mgmt. The most fun I had in aviation was building the time and flying freight in a Baron. Jets are nice when you are in the air, but on the ground all the rest that goes with it really sucks most of the time.
 

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You're going to fly a doctor around in a Baron with 350TT? Please plan your flights over un-populated areas.
 

Way2Broke

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Cptn2b said:
Just for everyones information...there are people who get places without being a CFI for 1000 hours..everyone on this whole freakin site seems to use the same stupid "pay your dues line".
Trust me, those "places" are not as cool as you think. There are alot of very high time pilots out of work right now, what makes you think that you deserve a job more than they do? Is it because you will do it for half the price that they would have just to get the time? Thats not a good reason, and will not earn you any bonus points here. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. Each "step" in the process will teach you things, just like your post here should teach you to be patient and everything will work out in the end. There is a quote that someone has on here that says something like "A pilot's career is not about a destination, its about the trip." Keep that in mind as you set off into your new career, and don't step on any toes this early in the game. The people that your stepping on are the people that will be able to help you when you are qualified for those "places" you speak of.
 
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Twin time

My advice is to get an MEI job where you can fly alot.
 

Tram

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Cptn2b said:
Just for everyones information...there are people who get places without being a CFI for 1000 hours..everyone on this whole freakin site seems to use the same stupid "pay your dues line".
Captain to be, eeehh? :)

Didn't you just ask US to find these places for you, now your telling us they are there? Well, hot shot.. where are they? :)

It's not the "site" telling you to pay your dues.. It's the profession.. You freakin 400 hour kids think your entitled to the right seat in an RJ as soon as you have some "time" under your belt.. It's pathetic...

Fly for free today, you'll fly for next to free tomorrow..


Ohh, btw Way2Broke - I happen to think that last post is your best so far, not the header off the building.. :)
 

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Instruct, dude. You've got 350 hours. You don't know your butt from a hole in the ground yet. You don't get it now, but in another 2000 hours or so, when you're trying to get a job flying that Baron, and some other kid comes along with 350 hours that says he'll do it for free and takes it from you, trust me, you'll get pi$$ed off too.
 

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Wonder what the insurance on a Baron with zero multi time at 350 hours is? :D
 

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You'll pay your dues, one way or another. Don't want to instruct for 1000 hours? Try FO-ing on a 135 freighter (Air Cargo Carriers, et. al.). You'll build time quick with your first "real job" anywhere, so don't let your frustration with the slow pace of flight instructing turn you into a dirty little whore.

If you stay in aviation very long, you WILL live to eat your words on this thread. Why are you in such a hurry? Because you want a good job flying a sophisticated airplane with a nice fat paycheck, right? Well, we'd all be a lot closer to our ultimate goal if you desperados would quit giving away the farm and grow some testicles.

In fact, I hereby challenge every commercial pilot reading this to go apply for a job you don't really want but are pretty sure you'd get, go to the interview and ask lots of questions about pay, QOL, maintenance, corporate culture, etc. Take your time, but more importantly, take up lots of their time. Then, when they offer you the job, tell them thanks, but no thanks, and act like you're offended that they wasted your time and expected you to beg for their abuse.

I'm going to go take a shower now...
 

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You might as well get paid for letting someone else do the flying. i.e. instructing
 

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Contract Baron pilots around here are making $250-300/day plus expenses.

Even if you were qualified to fly a Baron (which you're not), think about all the friends you'd make around here by offering to fly one for free!

Although with your time, you might be able to find a good gig washing a 58. Lemme know, and I'll write you a nice letter of recommendation.
 

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Tram said:
Ohh, btw Way2Broke - I happen to think that last post is your best so far, not the header off the building.. :)
Why thank you. Sometimes I actually think before I speak. But man it hurts my head! Do you have any Tylenol?
 

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Tram said:
Wonder what the insurance on a Baron with zero multi time at 350 hours is? :D
$8,500 plus, and 50+ dual on type
That's the premium on a Seneca.
 

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Pay those dues. I ferry planes trying to get to my IFR mins but I have to clean them and do other office bs too in exchange. Ive learned so much and dealt with several near emergencies and I realize that Im still a low time puke who doesnt know sh!t. I am excited about flying piston twins and can't wait to make the freight dog status! Enjoy the ride. As hard as I might b!tch sometimes for some of the bs I put up with just to get hours I try very hard to stay humble and realize that Im a lucky SOB to be flying and getting paid, albeit not much.
 
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