Legacy Bashfest - Bring it on!

[O-Line]

800th post

800 complete wastes of time. Though it has been enjoyable.

Looks like ERJ-140 is cruising along over Indianapolis right now. I'm surprised he's doing 428kts over the ground, I didn't think WSCoD were that fast, must be at least .75M , though he's at FL380. I guess he's doesn't have the FL410 chip .

If you want to waste more time go to http://www.flytecomm.com/cgi-bin/trackflight or any other flight tracker and enter PHX as arrival airport and TEB as departure.

Let's cheer our boy on as he races across the US in his chariot! Kind of makes me want to go out there and buy him a beer as he crosses the finish line, for entertaining us all these months in a way that would make Baghdad Bob proud.

 

[jknight8907]

He's halfway across with 2.5 hrs left...but think on the bright side, if you read the groundspeed in MPH it looks a LOT faster...

 

[banned username 2]

800 complete wastes of time. Though it has been enjoyable.

Looks like ERJ-140 is cruising along over Indianapolis right now. I'm surprised he's doing 428kts over the ground, I didn't think WSCoD were that fast, must be at least .75M , though he's at FL380. I guess he's doesn't have the FL410 chip .

If you want to waste more time go to http://www.flytecomm.com/cgi-bin/trackflight or any other flight tracker and enter PHX as arrival airport and TEB as departure.

SwiftAir Flight 730, looks like it's last flight was KLAS-KTEB and now it is going KTEB-KPHX... This co-incides with our little posting buddy...

FL380... Geez, I thought he said the WSCofD was a Stellar Performer! What's he doing so low??? Looks like he is flying about Mach 0.76 at FL380 according to the flight plan I ran using current winds and looking at the location he is at and comparing groundspeeds (Mach 0.80 at his current location using current temp/altitude/winds should yield a Groundspeed of 452 kts today, his current 428 kts ground speed equates to Mach 0.76 TAS under the current conditions)... Mach 0.76 at FL380 sounds about EXACTLY like what the Manufacture claims... So much for his FL400 doing Mach 0.80... NOT EVEN CLOSE! And with only 2 hours left in the flight he should be plenty light if the WSCofD really was capable of FL400 and Mach 0.80 (which we can easily see it is not)

At least last night on my short trip home from the East coast I was at FL430!!!

I KNEW he worked for Swift, they are about the only one's flying and trying to sell the WSCofD!!!

I wonder if he has to rock back and forth in his seat saying "I THINK I can, I THINK I can" to get the WSCofD above FL350???

 

[jknight8907]

I wonder if he has to rock back and forth in his seat saying "I THINK I can, I THINK I can" to get the WSCofD above FL350???

Actually I've heard it works better to run up and down the cabin flapping your arms and making 'vroom' noises...

 

[banned username 2]

Actually I've heard it works better to run up and down the cabin flapping your arms and making 'vroom' noises...

OH, I thought he did THAT during take-off as he is sucking up nearly 6,000 ft of runway!!!

Rollin' Rollin' Rollin', Keep that WSC Rollin'!

 

[jknight8907]

No, he has the be up front so he can pedal it down the runway...

 

[banned username 2]

Ut Oh, it looks like WSCofDdriver has slowed the "Mighty Whistler", back to Mach 0.74 (at FL380), perhaps to make it without a fuel stop??? His ground speed is back to 411 kts, (Mach 0.80 would be about 447 kts ground speed at his current location considering winds & temp)...

 

[G100driver]

Well I sure won't get those numbers out of a G100. You're lucky those APUs you have for engines even start!

Hey, $hit can man, the G100 will ALWAYS do 410 and M80. Now obvioulsy it does not have the cabin of a WSCofD, but it never pretended to be a world class airplane. In reality, it is a piece of garbage. Best thing that happened to us was that airplane kept on stranding us. Forced the boss to get off the pot and purchase a new airplane. Also not much more $$ than a WSCofD, but the airplane is M.84 at FL430 every day cross country. The airplane also holds value as well. We are constantly receiving calls to purchase above the cost of our aquistion price.

Good luck at SWA (if you get hired). Rumor has it they are good place to work

 

[O-Line]

Any way....... The airplane will do .74M range numbers at .796M. Do it all the time, personally. If you look at it, even the PUBLISHED numbers between .80 range and .74 are a wopping 100-150NM. That's just not that much. Going back and forth across the CONUS we are always doing .795M so quit acting like everyone is running around at 0.74M.

45 minutes left, still at FL380, 394kts across the ground with the winds today I'd say he's doing .74M.

 

[FracCapt]

Besides, why should I give you information on who was there? If you want it that badly (dunno why you care), you PM me who *you* are and work for and we'll talk about determining who was where.

Because I think you're full of sh!t.

If you work for the same company as either airplane (you should know right?) Then I will divulge info.
Not before.

I'm a Captain at Flight Options. Have been for many years. I probably only know half of the Legacy Captains, but I can verify the other names via our seniority list....or, I could just lookup their email address via my company Blackberry.

 

[ERJ-140]

BS,
Most of the components on the Embraer are substandard because when the EMB-145 was being built no one wanted or was too scared to do business with them. Hence they got components that are substandard. These are the same components that are on the EMB-135, EMB-140, Legacy and every other WSCoD out there.

I have read and re-read this post fifty times and it gets funnier and funnier. I still don't see the pointbut I'm trying.

Ignoring the factual errors inherent there....and stifling laughter...let's take this to its logical conclusion. It was substandard because people were afraid of it. Now however, it has sold nearly 1000 copies, making it an unqualified success by any measure. Therefore it clearly has become, through development, at worst "above standard".

Dim bulbs are fun to debate I must admit.

Note: Embraer has performance guarantees that must be met or penaalties will be paid and business lost. You don't dispatch with percentages in the high 90s and be "substandard".

 

[ERJ-140]

There. Hope I waited the appropriate amount of time. They should have pulled into the ramp about now.

Also, again, Swift isn't selling Legacy jets, I am not employed there (please, in all seriousness, for the sake of the innocent folks who actually -do- work there, don't try to claim I am a Swift guy - I really am not), and I do not *yet* have a type in the Falcon (I will do that in November).

You guys are so funny tracking that plane! I was LMAO!!!

 

[ERJ-140]

This too funny!

You know the odds of that being who you think it is are incredibly small. But funny.

Am I the only person here thinking of the myriad reasons why someone might go SLOWER than MMO?? (Save gas, turbulence penetration, ATC assigned, tailwind, better ride in chop....ad infinitum.)

 

[501261]

Am I the only person here thinking of the myriad reasons why someone might go SLOWER than MMO?? (Save gas, turbulence penetration, ATC assigned, tailwind, better ride in chop....ad infinitum.)

Hell, that's why most of us simply go higher.

 

[AA717driver]

"turbulence penetration"? Sorry but the original comparison made in this thread was the WSCoD to the G-units. Turbulence penetration speed is M.80.

That's right. G's have to SLOW DOWN to M.80 in turbulence.

FalconCapt--"I THINK I CAN, I THINK I CAN..." LMAO!.

"$hit Can Man". That needs to be someone's new screen name. You guys are a hoot! That's why I'd rather be here than watching re-runs of "Raymond". TC

 

[ERJ-140]

Hey don't ask me I wasn't flying it and dunno what turb speed is for Legacy. But let's be real for a second here. The plane goes 3200 NM. TEB-PHX is only what, 2100ish? The 145XR will go that far at .78 with far less fuel so that's a total non-argument. (M 0.80 Range = 3100 NM with 8 Pax and NBAA IFR reserves at FL390.)

(FC wasn't referring to my IP addy but to the email addy I registered with. Belongs to one of my girlfriends who now flies for SWA. I didn't feel like going to msn or whatever to get one. I am not in TEB and haven't been for quite some time.)

 

[ERJ-140]

Hell, that's why most of us simply go higher.

Going higher is not one of the Legacy's strong suits, btw, I admit. You would limited to 410 (390 on pre-mod airplanes) so you would have to go around it. But sometimes only a Citation X and the like can get above it. When you think about it that's a RARE circumstance.

 

[ERJ-140]

Mach 0.76 at FL380 sounds about EXACTLY like what the Manufacture claims...

So much for his FL400 doing Mach 0.80... NOT EVEN CLOSE!

Manufacturer claims (at FL390 though capable of FL410) 3100NM with 8 Pax and NBAA Reserves at Mach 0.80, FAR more than enough to go KTEB-KPHX.

You are not very smart are you, FC?

Still waiting for you to magically show the manufacturer claiming I'm wrong here. Embraer.com has the info. Are you too afraid to look it up?

Also, you should note in the press release that the FL410 airplanes are only just now coming off the production line, so there is a reason that airplane wasn't at FL400 - it can't go there (yet?).

 

[ERJ-140]

Because I think you're full of sh!t.

You are entitled to think what you wish. It's not hard to prove one's story with photographs. I took a cool shot of the two tails side by side. (The Options tail # is N912 _ _ FWIW. You can see the little Vegas Pyramid in the background.)

I'm a Captain at Flight Options. Have been for many years. I probably only know half of the Legacy Captains, but I can verify the other names via our seniority list....or, I could just lookup their email address via my company Blackberry.

PM me your FLIGHT OPTIONS-domained email address and I'll send you the information I have.

 

[ERJ-140]

ERJ-140 et al,

I have never seen someone who likes to get called to the carpet on nearly every post. And to think that an identity change will somehow increase ones credibility is laughable. It's like the little kid that gets beat up daily but goes back the next day for more.

Man, you love the WSCoD. More power to you. I love my teeth but that doesn't mean I enjoy going to the dentist!

In the abuse department, you're what we call a SURE BET!!!

Do you honestly think I give a hoot about what these clowns think of my credibility? Please. It's clearly a biased audience. One has to go into it with that in mind. Besides, this is all in fun and if anyone is taking this too seriously they have serious personal issues!

In the meantime...I'm running my own business and enjoying the laughs for what they are. I'll be lucky to be alive in five years (cancer can do that to you) much less in aviation, and if everything goes according to plan maybe one of these Legacy-hating wankers will be coming to me for a job flying my brand new Global Express (or worse, still, my Legacy Universal Express - oh the horror!). Flying is a hobby. It should always be a hobby and when it becomes a career you're destined to be miserable.

On the other hand, I think it is more hilarious to get fifty people riled up all by myself! The amount of energy and time I am wasting on this is miniscule compared to the Legacy Basher Gang! The amount of time you guys spend on conspiracy theories! Ha ha ha!

This is the most fun a person can have sober, I swear!

Thanks! You've been a great audience! I'll be here all week!

*bows*