Leave SWA for Fed Ex

[Bavarian Chef]

Not exactly. 1 hr credit for every 4 on duty. On your first and last day of work its not 6 hours. More like 4.

Those are swa numbers right? They don't have 73s at fedex.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Those are swa numbers right? They don't have 73s at fedex.

And they don't have the Fedex rig at JetBlue either.....

No, we are both talking about the rules at Fedex. I know more than one set of rules. Wanna talk about UPS or CAL???

SWA rule is 5 trips for pay (which is a number about 15% over actual hours). Unless it is open time, then it may not be rigged at all. But a great portion of the flying at SWA does not touch the rig. Lots of time airborne.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

At the risk of doing more public math. How did you come up with 16.48? I figure--

35 - 18.19 = 16.81
28 - 14.7 = 13.3

The way I read this is on an alternating cycle of 28 and 35 day months you average (16.8 + 13.3) 30.1 days off over 63 days (two months). That's 15.05 days a month.

Another way I chose to figure was to divide 30.1 days by 63 days and then multiply by 31 days. That yields 14.8 days off in a 31 day month

I don't work there but my buds that do have an incredible qol (or at least that's what they tell me). One flew about 250 hours in his last year, one hasn't been around memphis much at all in the last two months (bids deadheads), another hasn't flown past midnight since he's been there (18 months), another mil drops without retribution (hear swa isn't treating their reservists well lately, coincidentally) etc etc. You know I have no dog in this fight (yeah that's right I'm jealous of both, maybe I will work for a real airline someday), BUT I think it would probably make more sense to compare contracts and not bid packs. I have been told over and over again that there is so many ways to work your schedule at fedex it's freakin' ridiculous. I don't know that about swa. I am still waiting for that JB vs Fedex thread.


BAWAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

My friends tell me that they can't get a purely commutable trip at swa? Any truth or are they stretching it a lil bit? If that is true, then isn't that a wash? If I have to spend the night in nyc to start or end a trip, then that is another day of work to me. Might mean a redeye for me to avoid an overnight stay, but lately my seniority is helping me avoid them.

Does it have soemthing to do with the AM and PM type schedules?

Yes, as I tried to say it is hard to commute both ends. Plan on spending a night in domicile before the trips starts (AM) or a night after (PM). Almost all trips are AM or PM. Sometimes a trip will switch in the middle or just straddle both, but that is unusual.

Yes, I consider it another day of work to spend the night and commute after. But it doesn't have to be if you live in domicile.

Just trying to compare apples to apples here.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

And they don't have the Fedex rig at JetBlue either.....

No, we are both talking about the rules at Fedex. I know more than one set of rules. Wanna talk about UPS or CAL???

SWA rule is 5 trips for pay (which is a number about 15% over actual hours). Unless it is open time, then it may not be rigged at all. But a great portion of the flying at SWA does not touch the rig. Lots of time airborne.

Dude, relax. I just said they have a 6 hour rig at fedex. At least I am pretty sure they do. I don't even work there, but have a ton of friends that do and they enjoy it. I know at least 15 people that work at swa (ten or so that have started in the last year -- all military) and they love it. So lay off. There's no fire here.


Edit: Picking on the jb pilot is like picking on the retarded kid at class. We know our wages are low, our 401k is anemic, our stock is in the $hitter, our credit rating is in the cellar etc etc -- you don't need to pick a fight with us. We are suffering enough.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

(hear swa isn't treating there reservists well lately, coincidentally) etc etc. You know I have no dog in this fight (yeah that's right I'm jealous of both, maybe I will work for a real airline someday), BUT I think it would probably make more sense to compare contracts and not bid packs. I have been told over and over again that there is so many ways to work your schedule at fedex it's freakin' ridiculous. I don't know that about swa. I am still waiting for that JB vs Fedex thread.


BAWAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Bragging may or not be the whole truth. You also hear seniority is everything at FedEx too. Lots and lots of FO's don't upgrade to Captain at the earliest opportunity because they don't want to lose their ability to bid the line they want. Lots of variance between the worst line and the best line. I have heard it takes seniority to get those day lines or the density or trip length that you want. Otherwise you get what is left over.

You can compare contracts. That is important. But I was comparing days off and bid lines.

Compare everything before drawing a conclusion. But, like ground school, I like to focus on one thing at a time.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Dude, relax. I just said they have a 6 hour rig at fedex. At least I am pretty sure they do. I don't even work there, but have a ton of friends that do and they enjoy it. I know at least 15 people that work at swa (ten or so that have started in the last year -- all military) and they love it. So lay off. There's no fire here.

I forget friendly sarcasm and my sense of humor does not come across the internet.

Just having fun with you. No insult or flame intended.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Bragging may or not be the whole truth. You also hear seniority is everything at FedEx too. Lots and lots of FO's don't upgrade to Captain at the earliest opportunity because they don't want to lose their ability to bid the line they want. Lots of variance between the worst line and the best line. I have heard it takes seniority to get those day lines or the density or trip length that you want. Otherwise you get what is left over.

You can compare contracts. That is important. But I was comparing days off and bid lines.

Compare everything before drawing a conclusion. But, like ground school, I like to focus on one thing at a time.

Okay, so you get what is left over and you MIL drop the whole bag and then put together a much better schedule. But that's probably working the system.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

I forget friendly sarcasm and my sense of humor does not come across the internet.

Just having fun with you. No insult or flame intended.

I know, fbj.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Okay, so you get what is left over and you MIL drop the whole bag and then put together a much better schedule. But that's probably working the system.

Your kungfu is getting very strong Grasshopper.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Your kungfu is getting very strong Grasshopper.

Chuck Norris puts the laughter in manslaughter.

http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/

 

[Sluggo_63]

FlyBoeingJets[/left];1128737]At the risk of doing more public math. How did you come up with 16.48? I figure--

35 - 18.19 = 16.81
28 - 14.7 = 13.3

The way I read this is on an alternating cycle of 28 and 35 day months you average (16.8 + 13.3) 30.1 days off over 63 days (two months). That's 15.05 days a month.

Another way I chose to figure was to divide 30.1 days by 63 days and then multiply by 31 days. That yields 14.8 days off in a 31 day month

The 18.19/14.7 numbers were days off, not work days.

In a 35 day month we have an average of 18.19 days off/16.81 work days
In a 28 day month we have an average of 14.70 days off/13.30 work days

I guess a more accurate way to figure it is:
4-35 day months @ 18.19 days off average is 72.76 days off
8-28 day months @ 14.70 days off average is 117.6 days off

72.76+117.6=190.36 days off per year.

190.36/12=15.9 days off each month.

Papa

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Chuck Norris puts the laughter in manslaughter.

http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/



I almost spit water out my nose.

You got me.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

The 18.19/14.7 numbers were days off, not work days.

In a 35 day month we have an average of 18.19 days off/16.81 work days
In a 28 day month we have an average of 14.70 days off/13.30 work days

I guess a more accurate way to figure it is:
4-35 day months @ 18.19 days off average is 72.76 days off
8-28 day months @ 14.70 days off average is 117.6 days off

72.76+117.6=190.36 days off per year.

190.36/12=15.9 days off each month.

Papa

Thanks for setting me straight.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Ok, now it's confirmed.......he is gay and RETARDED!

My airplane is bigger and cooler than yours....na na na na na

C'mon mega....

If you girls aren't comparing clothes it the size of your chest.....

It's a human thang... not a guy thang!!