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[Yuppyguppy]

no... furloughees are not paying for their hotels.

 

[Plunder Hound]

Best wishes GP. Hoping this works out for all of us.

 

[Turbojet]

Guppy,

Not sure if you know who i am, but we were in the same ground school at Scenic air in 1995 when we were told supprisingly that our class was not going to fly the Twater after all....instead we would all go fly singles in Page or Sedona. We were all bummed out because it was a setback to us not to get the twin turbine time that we all needed to climb the ladder. Those were the days when guys/galls had to have 2000+ hours and 500+ multi just to get the chance to fly a turboprop at a regional.

Well that "setback" turned into the best summer of my life and the most fun flying I have ever done...and will ever do. Since then your career and mine have paralled almost exactly...Same regional...(although i didn't go to Emery)...same Major...same crappy furlough...same decision to stay where we are now or to go back to an airline that we dreamed of flying for ever since we were kids.

Well I too have decided to stay (SWA). The only paralled I can draw is that I hope that this career setback will only pay off for us at the end of our careers when we can sit back and know that we made the right decision for our families. At least we will always know that we made it, enen though it was short lived.

Oh, and one more thing....I think what UAL didn't do for the furloughees is just chicken ********************. They sold us down the river on so many things it makes me just sick. Then they offer us to come back with no credit for time spent on furlough, and oh yeah...you need to come back into Denver to take another company physical!...they can just kiss my rump.

Good luck,
Till me meet again my friend,
TJ

 

[UALX727]

Guppy,

I made the choice to stay at AirTran a few weeks back. I know that feeling you describe about so well. But for me, it is all about seniority and stability.

From all of my buddies I have talked with that were furloughed from UAL, most of them did not go back. They all had differing reasons, but mainly each said one thing that is so true...UAL is not the same place we remember it.

One buddy actually went back and after a week resigned to go back flying corporate. I asked him why, and he said it was nothing but doom and gloom over at TK, not anything like it was in 2000. Different place, same name. He added simply looking at the pay loss he would take, and the 5-6 years it would take to simply get back to where he is now, it wasn't worth it at this stage of the game.

Hopefully we will finally get some stability back in our lives. I know I actually feel better since I made my choice. I chose to do what I thought was the most responsible thing for my family. Good luck.

 

[Yuppyguppy]

Well I left AAI couldn't stand it...best of luck to ya

 

[Dano]

Talk about strength in numbers..........got the letter yesterday, staying at Blue......slept quite well last night!

I'm going to try not to look back at this decision, but I do feel good about it, and it's good to read that I'm not the only one resigning from what was once my dream job as well.



good luck to us all!

 

[Powda5]

That's a big part of the 'hard part' in the decision. That UAL we remember WAS the dream job. It's hard to think it isn't that way anymore. I can't imagine it any other way. There's a GNC across the street that I went to. Saw a TK employee there and told him I had just resigned. He was very doom and gloom, also. I think it's what you make of it, but clearly it won't be what we think we were going back to.

I'm curious what the vacancy awards were-anyone got em?

 

[Andy]

This was, hands down, the most difficult decision I've had to make in my professional career.

Best of luck to ya at Blue. Now that the decision's made, don't look back or second guess it; that's all rear view mirror stuff now.

 

[GuppyPuppy]

Guppy,

Not sure if you know who i am, but we were in the same ground school at Scenic air in 1995 when we were told supprisingly that our class was not going to fly the Twater after all....instead we would all go fly singles in Page or Sedona. We were all bummed out because it was a setback to us not to get the twin turbine time that we all needed to climb the ladder. Those were the days when guys/galls had to have 2000+ hours and 500+ multi just to get the chance to fly a turboprop at a regional.

Well that "setback" turned into the best summer of my life and the most fun flying I have ever done...and will ever do. Since then your career and mine have paralled almost exactly...Same regional...(although i didn't go to Emery)...same Major...same crappy furlough...same decision to stay where we are now or to go back to an airline that we dreamed of flying for ever since we were kids.

Well I too have decided to stay (SWA). The only paralled I can draw is that I hope that this career setback will only pay off for us at the end of our careers when we can sit back and know that we made the right decision for our families. At least we will always know that we made it, enen though it was short lived.

Oh, and one more thing....I think what UAL didn't do for the furloughees is just chicken ********************. They sold us down the river on so many things it makes me just sick. Then they offer us to come back with no credit for time spent on furlough, and oh yeah...you need to come back into Denver to take another company physical!...they can just kiss my rump.

Good luck,
Till me meet again my friend,
TJ

Hey J

Of course I remember you. Congrats on SWA!

Flying out of SEZ was some memorable flying. Remember the Navajo Taco at Gouldings? I remember a particular NW 747 captain who would jumpseat on many of my "airline" runs between SEZ and PHX. He told me that he'd love to be doing the type of flying that I was doing. I thought he was crazy and told him I wanted to be in his shoes. Now I understand what he meant.

I can't tell you how much I miss flying small planes. When we were at United PRH (pre-rag heads) I could afford to rent a C172 once in a while. I just priced one out here at our lone FBO at $106/hr! CFI for a checkout would be $49/hr. Sadly, it was just too expensive. I just can't justify spending hundreds of dollars for something that has no tangible value. Too many projects around the house that need that money first.

BTW...the best summer of my life was when I took my LOA from UA in '02. Went back to AK to fly singles and met my wife then. Hiked the Chilkoot Trail, camped, fished, day hiked, drank beer with my buds at least 3x/wk, got some sweet pix, almost came to blows with customs agent, made lifelong friends. Lived like a college student and loved it. Can't wait to get back. If only JB had a Juneau domicile....hmmmm...one can dream!

Hopefully my journey and yours will lead to many good times.

All the best, my friend.

GP

 

[BigRed1]

... I'm curious what the vacancy awards were-anyone got em?

Here are the awards for October 31 training. I'll post just the F/O positions for the 300 and 320. There were no 767 awards this round. The unfilled vacancies will be awarded to the returning furloughee classes in the coming months.

To all those returning, welcome back. To those of you who have decided to remain at your current job, I can certainly understand that very sound logic, and I wish you the best in your future flying career. I know we have lost a lot of extremely talented pilots as a result of the lack of credit afforded those pilots who spent a lot of time on furlough.

BigRed1


B737-300 First Officer
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DCA-8
7375 256809 RAGON,DA F/O 300 DEN
UNFILLED - 7

ORD-22
8267 266749 JOST,JM F/O 300 DCA (ML)
8280 266695 GERMANSON,SM F/O 300 DCA
8283 266710 KEELY,RS F/O 300 DCA (LS)
8384 268252HACKETHORN,JC F/O 300 DCA (ML)
UNFILLED - 21

DEN-11
6635 193685 SENN,RB F/O 300 ORD
6704 193750 WHETSTONE,HD F/O 320 DEN
6782 193838 WORK,RA F/O 300 ORD
6993 250769 CHRISTENSEN,JM F/O 300 DCA (ML)
7821 260867 GEVEN,CT F/O 300 ORD
7883 261678 KELLY,SS F/O 300 DCA
7978 205167 BECKER,JL F/O 300 DCA (LA)
8000 263606 COWAN,GA F/O 300 ORD (LS)
8298 266863 MATHEWS,DL F/O 300 DCA
8351 267940 MCCLAIN,TI F/O 300 ORD (ML)
8352 267938 OHMAN,JC F/O 300 ORD (ML)
8360 268257 BLUMENBERG,KL F/O 300 ORD (LS)
8446 152964 CARLIN,MS F/O 300 ORD
8451 270098 MONTGOMERY,DL F/O 300 ORD
8466 271138 VINTON,TR F/O 300 ORD
8494 271436 ODONNELL,PM F/O 300 ORD
8542 272092 SKOWRON,DW F/O 300 ORD (LS)
8553 272241 ALLRED,GW F/O 300 ORD (ML)
8557 272243 WALDRON,PJ F/O 300 ORD (LS)
UNFILLED - 1

A320 First Officer
------------------------------
DCA-22
6218 182277 MUTCHLER,JC F/O 320 JFK
6418 185959 FLETCHER,WC F/O 320 ORD
7508 155474 WURST,SF F/O 320 DEN
7541 258747 OLSON,JJ F/O 320 ORD
7590 259128 MEYER,RA F/O 320 LAX (ML)
8512 271432 ETAYO,VJ F/O 320 ORD
UNFILLED - 17

ORD-15
5675 174091 WATKINSON,KJ F/O 320 JFK
7681 259741 FLINT,MD F/O 320 DCA
7941 066296 POLACHECK,DC F/O 320 DCA
8022 263891 PEARSON-MOSS,BH F/O 320 DCA
8056 264478 PIERCE,JS F/O 320 DCA
8584 272633 COCKELL,DE F/O 320 DCA
8629 273455 BELL,SR F/O 320 DCA (LS)
8630 273454 KALAL,SC F/O 320 DCA (LA)
8634 272279 MODICA,JR F/O 320 DCA (LS)
8639 273451 MORGAN,EC F/O 320 DCA (LA)
UNFILLED - 9

DEN-7
6788 193840 LOCKWOOD,SM F/O 320 DCA (ML)
6797 193858 KEENAN,MF F/O 320 SFO
7053 251319 MANTEI,MC F/O 320 ORD (ML)
7482 203916 WRENCH,HH F/O 320 SFO
7804 261033 HIGGINS,FM F/O 320 DCA
7847 261345 VON BUTTLAR,H F/O 320 ORD
7906 261878 SCHOOT,MD F/O 320 DCA
7922 261887 ASKE,DD F/O 320 ORD
8029 170022 HALLING,BT F/O 320 SFO