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[wild bill kelso]

Mcpickle is pretty funny. He post here like a bad ass, throwing the scab word around and saying how unwelcome you guys will be in IAH. Then he post on the CAL board like "hi guys what do you think of this..." I think he has some kind of bipolor disorder.

 

[NEDude]

Cal management isn't responsible for the flowbacks. If Coex pilots are mad about them, they should point the finger right where is belongs, at themselves. The Coex pilots wanted the FTA, they voted for it in their last contract. The flowback provision was a part it. Nobody else is to blame for it, not management, not other airlines.

 

[mckpickle]

Mcpickle is pretty funny. He post here like a bad ass, throwing the scab word around and saying how unwelcome you guys will be in IAH. Then he post on the CAL board like "hi guys what do you think of this..." I think he has some kind of bipolor disorder.

Im not going to get into a pi$$in contest with you. I never said they would be unwelcome in IAH. WHAT I said was that the guys with the attitude that "our pilots are not worthy of a job at Skywest with out a full interview" is going to ruffle some feathers. I have never accused ANYONE of being a scab at Skywest. I asked a question that was very pertinant to our situation. I have gone out of my way to welcome the Commutair guys as I will do with the Skywest guys. My post on the CAL board is for one reason. To keep the MAJORITY of members in OUR union informed at to what is going on. If you have a personal problem with me than take it up with ME.

 

[guitarflyer]

pickle,
Your attitude is exactly why the interviews should and will be done and exactly why YOU wouldn't be hired at Skywest.

 

[mckpickle]

pickle,
Your attitude is exactly why the interviews should and will be done and exactly why YOU wouldn't be hired at Skywest.

Really. Thank your for the CONSTRUCTIVE critisism. I still am not sure what I have said that is SOOOO Scarry. I have stuck to the same argument. I dont like the posters who have wanted it to be dificlult for our furloughed pilots to secure jobs. Jobs flying routes they themselves used to fly. I will not rehash the whos flying it is argument. But I have not tried to show any attitude. I have simply stuck to my guns that our pilots should not be shown attitude buy Skywest guys trying to make things difficult.

And guitar flyer. If I can make it through Dresser and I can make it through the CAL interview board, I think I could handle your interview.

Otherwise I am done with this. Welcome Skywest, good luck on your contract TA and the outcome of the vote. Good luck to the furloughed XJT guys we are still trying to get you home. Everyone fly safe.

 

[George Jetson]

pickle,
Your attitude is exactly why the interviews should and will be done and exactly why YOU wouldn't be hired at Skywest.

Final MOU language will be approved next week. There will be no interviews on subjective issues. Provided an XJT pilot meets the objective hiring criteria (1000 hours total time, etc), he/she will be given a job at Skywest. Yes, that is a fact..and not one that is based on crew room rhetoric.

GJ

 

[FNB]

huh?

Mcpickle,

You try to sound so important, after all you could get through the CO interview, so of course we will take you. Besides what do we know about anything we just fly those puddle jumpers. If being a major airline pilot means flying as your FO, then I am happy where I am.

 

[Bjet Driver]

FNB-

Pickle has been flying "puddle jumpers" for 5 years+. The last thing we need with this tread is someone throwing around more criticism and rhetoric.

 

[Dr. Hootie]

Cal management isn't responsible for the flowbacks. If Coex pilots are mad about them, they should point the finger right where is belongs, at themselves. The Coex pilots wanted the FTA, they voted for it in their last contract. The flowback provision was a part it. Nobody else is to blame for it, not management, not other airlines.

Any pilots that are currently furloughed from Coex (XJT now of course) did not vote on that last contract. I'm one in those numbers, and when I read the FTA, I was surprised and immediately recognized it as a bad deal - 3 for 1 going up and 100% coming back down. When I was hired in May '01 I also recognized that I would most likely not benefit from that FTA to begin with. As with most things in this industry, individual pilots are affected by things that: a - they have no control over; and b - happen to them by no fault of their own. You just have to ride out the bumps.

Being that I'm furloughed from Coex and I'm sick of flight instructing while trying to update resumes for dozens of companies that haven't budged to hire me, I'm looking forward to the opportunity to go back to work. Meet and Greet/no subjective questions type interview/whatever. I'll be ready for whatever "they" want us to do and I'll be happy and thankful for the job.

 

[nimtz]

Cal management isn't responsible for the flowbacks. If Coex pilots are mad about them, they should point the finger right where is belongs, at themselves. The Coex pilots wanted the FTA, they voted for it in their last contract. The flowback provision was a part it. Nobody else is to blame for it, not management, not other airlines.

NE Dude,

The guys who voted yes for the FTA are pretty much are all still at CAL or very senior back at Express. Almost sixty percent of the seniority list was not here when the FTA was signed. In my humble opinon I always thought it was junk and would not of agreed to extend it under its present form, regardless of CAL furloughs or not. Trust me CAL management has abused the thing to its absolute limits and I'm not even talking about the flowback process.

BTW Skywest guys if the interview process is how you have been indicating, then we are about as content as we can be with this whole process.

 

[Vorleron]

The ironic thing from my perspective is that the "corporate culture" which is actually a misnomer, because what we are really talking about is a "flight crew culture" at Express and Skywest are probably very close to the same.

99.9% of all the people I have flown with at Express are the most helpful and positively oriented people you would ever want to meet or work with. I am sure the same is true for Skywest.

The big difference is that while it appears that Skywest's management has not done anything to inhibit the naturally inherent positive attitudes of it's pilot's, Express management has done so much real damage since 9/11 that moral is truly suffering.

But, I can assure everyone of this: regardless of how any Express pilots get to Skywest, they have to volunteer to go, they are highly motivated to succeed, and will have extremely positive attitudes.

Furthermore, I am sure that any Express pilot going to Skywest will realize the possible opportunity for a secure long term career that Skywest might offer in this current poor airline environment and woud have an attitude and work ethic to match.

And for the Skywest people headed to IAH, don't be too surprised if the Express pilots you meet turn out to be some of the nicest and friendliest people you meet...

 

[maddog805]

Final MOU language will be approved next week. There will be no interviews on subjective issues. Provided an XJT pilot meets the objective hiring criteria (1000 hours total time, etc), he/she will be given a job at Skywest. Yes, that is a fact..and not one that is based on crew room rhetoric.

GJ

It appears you are right and I was wrong. It's gonna be a meet and greet. My bad.

 

[Skyward]

The union guys where in the IAH crew room today, as said above interview will be meet and great. SkyWest will be hiring the same number pilots as positions that open because of IAH flying, ie. if they need a total of 40 CA’s and 40 FO’s for IAH SkyWest will hire 80 furloughed XJET pilots. I guess class will be starting June 19th so if any furloughed XJET guys want to take advantage of this contact Peter Sailer.

 

[WmuBronco]

Hey was wondering what Skywest's current pilot domcilies are?? Couldn't find any except for old ones on the Skywest web site.

 

[maddog805]

Domiciles

In no peticular order:

CRJ

FAT
SLC
TUS
PSP
SBA
DFW (reserve only)
DEN
SMF

EMB

FAT
SLC
PSP
SBA
DEN
MRY
SBP
PDX
SAN
IAH

Did I forget any?