Latest DL rumors and upgrades

[Daddy]

Holy Shiite

 

[GogglesPisano]

Anyone on 2nd year pay and beyond would reach their 401c limits under those circumstances, in which case the funds would be paid directly into regular pay.

 

[nwaf16dude]

So 31% total company funded retirement in 2014?!?

The delta profit sharing isn't a retirement contribution. It's straight W-2 earnings. You can make elective 401k contributions from it, just like any other income, or you can just take the cash. They do make a 15% DC plan contribution on top of the PS money, so if your ps check is 10000, you get the 10k and you get an additional 1500 into the retirement plan.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

The arrogance of the Southwest tools to point out how many legs somebody flies....

Brass set.....

 

[redflyer65]

Brass set? Please Bill. I've seen the narrowbody Delta lines. The bottom line is they blow, especially with no rig. You can spin that however you like.

How about the hypocrisy of Genny touting upgrades, but he sure as hell isn't wading into that nasty schedule (if he where a DL pilot to begin with). The difference between international and domestic at DL is pretty stark. Just look at how junior a narrowbody upgrade goes. Says it all.

I honestly hope Delta makes some headway on the work rules/rigs. Pay looks good. Stability looks good. Retirement is good. Excellent place to be except for those narrowbody domestic lines. I imagine DALPA should be able to make some progress there.

 

[General Lee]

Brass set? Please Bill. I've seen the narrowbody Delta lines. The bottom line is they blow, especially with no rig. You can spin that however you like.

How about the hypocrisy of Genny touting upgrades, but he sure as hell isn't wading into that nasty schedule (if he where a DL pilot to begin with). The difference between international and domestic at DL is pretty stark. Just look at how junior a narrowbody upgrade goes. Says it all.

I honestly hope Delta makes some headway on the work rules/rigs. Pay looks good. Stability looks good. Retirement is good. Excellent place to be except for those narrowbody domestic lines. I imagine DALPA should be able to make some progress there.

Red,

I will bid Capt when I can make more money than I do now as an FO. Being senior in category currently means greenslips, go where I want, and get weekends and holidays off. I also am willing to fly the 737 next (73N in DL speak), and I'd rather not fly some of the other fleets. That doesn't mean they are worse, I'd rather stick with a Boeing, and I'm pretty close in ATL. Many guys who start on the MD88 probably like it. That's called variety Red, or choice. Look it up. It's like you choosing between Midland, Amarillo, and Islip layovers.

But thanks for caring Red. The min day average will be 5:15 per day starting Nov 1st, which is a huge improvement over current trips, especially on the domestic side. Things have gotten a lot better, and with approx $4 billion in profits this year estimated (prob higher due to lowering gas prices), profit sharing and a new contract, next year looks great so far. I hope GK is willing to give you guys raises for your multiple leg days, but after reading recent articles, that may not be the case. Good luck and enjoy Midland.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Scoot 11]

Another DL/SW bash thread. Why don't you aholes get a life!

 

[General Lee]

Notice I started this thread with just DL info and rumors, nothing about SWA at all. I wasn't negative at all. Then jealous Red and Jonny Juan came in to add their nonsense.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[daviator]

Effective Jan 1
MD-88 CA=$205.56/hr.
717 CA=$195.19/hr.
Not Bad!

 

[redflyer65]

Then jealous Red and Jonny Juan came in to add their nonsense.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Jealous? Dude, you are clinically insane if you believe that.

Jealous of 3 hour sits? Double breasted sub commander jackets? Flying 4 days and only taking home 20 of pay?

I'm glad Delta is doing well. It helps the industry. I had to bail on the stock though, it was sinking like the Sub Commander calling 'full depth'. I'll keep an eye on getting back in when things stabilize. Until then...

Full Steam Ahead Genny!

 

[General Lee]

Jealous? Dude, you are clinically insane if you believe that.

Jealous of 3 hour sits? Double breasted sub commander jackets? Flying 4 days and only taking home 20 of pay?

I'm glad Delta is doing well. It helps the industry. I had to bail on the stock though, it was sinking like the Sub Commander calling 'full depth'. I'll keep an eye on getting back in when things stabilize. Until then...

Full Steam Ahead Genny!

You have very little understanding of "typical" DL trips. First of all, domestically, there are now very few 3 hour sits. That's on almost every fleet. There are some now and then, but very few now. On the INTL side, there is normally one leg to an INTL destination, a 24 hour layover, and then one leg home. (Next month to Europe there are some 48 hour layovers, and even some 72 hour layovers in Rome) You've left out that side of flying, primarily because you don't have the same. You lack the CHOICE of long haul flying. That's why a guy at DL who is 9957 can hold MD88 Capt, there are thousands that are senior on Widebody planes who LIKE IT, A LOT. That's something you'll never understand, and we know that about you. Oh yeah, you'll say you wouldn't like that, but again you don't have a choice in the matter. You will never fly the plane to Hong Kong. No to Rome, Italy. No to Buenos Aires. And if you didn't like that flying, a domestic seat is just waiting, on several fleets to choose from too. Imagine that...

So, you are jealous. It's very easy to see that. You see a DL A330 in SEA or a DL 744 or 777 in DTW, and you start to feel qweazy, then followed by some flattus. Slider, you stink........ Next....



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Freebrd]

Same Old Tired Ass Delusional Jenny

 

[Mercyful Fate]

You have very little understanding of "typical" DL trips. First of all, domestically, there are now very few 3 hour sits. That's on almost every fleet. There are some now and then, but very few now. On the INTL side, there is normally one leg to an INTL destination, a 24 hour layover, and then one leg home. (Next month to Europe there are some 48 hour layovers, and even some 72 hour layovers in Rome) You've left out that side of flying, primarily because you don't have the same. You lack the CHOICE of long haul flying. That's why a guy at DL who is 9957 can hold MD88 Capt, there are thousands that are senior on Widebody planes who LIKE IT, A LOT. That's something you'll never understand, and we know that about you. Oh yeah, you'll say you wouldn't like that, but again you don't have a choice in the matter. You will never fly the plane to Hong Kong. No to Rome, Italy. No to Buenos Aires. And if you didn't like that flying, a domestic seat is just waiting, on several fleets to choose from too. Imagine that...

So, you are jealous. It's very easy to see that. You see a DL A330 in SEA or a DL 744 or 777 in DTW, and you start to feel qweazy, then followed by some flattus. Slider, you stink........ Next....



Bye Bye---General Lee

Hey Barry,

You still stirring the pot after getting me slapped into the penalty box?

 

[General Lee]

And now my name is....Barry......allllllriiiiiighty then.....



Bye Bye---General Barry Lee

 

[EngineThunder]

Is it really PFT for hotels at Delta?

 

[Mercyful Fate]

And now my name is....Barry......allllllriiiiiighty then.....



Bye Bye---General Barry Lee

Yup. Your initials are B.A.A. What else you need to know?

 

[Daddy]

Effective Jan 1
MD-88 CA=$205.56/hr.
717 CA=$195.19/hr.
Not Bad!

Why not the same? Are these separate fleets?

 

[General Lee]

Why not the same? Are these separate fleets?

Yes. Seperate fleets. There is not pay banding (yet anyway) on the narrow body fleet (except same cockpit planes). AA and UA have pay banding on larger chunks of plane types, whereas DL only pays the same on two fleets that are different (777/744 and 330/765 (767-400)).

Notice 12 year Capt rate on the 717 effective Jan 1st is $195 an hour, on the smallest plane in the mainline fleet. That's not bad, and another contract is coming, along with about $4 billion in profits this year, which equates to at least 2 extra months pay, (16% of your W2, or more due to lower oil prices), which partly has been paid out already (5% as of a week ago).

AA currently has no profit sharing, and Parker didn't want to discuss it in the latest negotiations. No wonder, it adds a lot to a pilot's pay. Try adding 2 months extra pay.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Yup. Your initials are B.A.A. What else you need to know?

Funny stuff. Ok, if you say so....


Bye Bye----General BAA Lee

 

[General Lee]

Is it really PFT for hotels at Delta?

That is true, after DL pays for the hotel for the first two weeks of Indoc. There is a question in the pilot contract survey dealing with this subject, which means it is on their radar to negotiate to get that changed possibly. If your sim happens to be in a location other than ATL, like in MIA for some 717 sims, then the company picks up the full tab.

While you're at it, please compare first year and second year pay at all 3 legacies. Then add the fact that DL will be getting a new contract adding more money, which is likely in 2015. That all adds up.


Bye Bye---General Lee