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[DirtyBeech]

Didn't I just read something about NetJets China starting up soon? :nuts:

Nicely played.

 

[fugazi]

So, would you say moral is at an all time low? I'd say so!

 

[Inigo Montoya]

And BK left the company. Too bad, I always liked that guy

 

[ArtVandalay]

Yeah he left however, he needed to go. The company is going in the wrong direction and they need someone to aggressively pursue the market. All he did was sit on his hands and talk about how good he was. Yeah, he was a nice guy but, I think the company needs to go in a different direction and obviously, they are.

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

BK leaving may well be the "Archduke Ferdinand" moment at FJ. The beginning of something horrendous. Take cover men!

 

[FalconPilot69]

Dude, are you serious!? He is the reason that our company grew in the first place. BK was who for years has been pushing the whole Global issue for us. Now that it looks like NJA is getting them, what does that tell you? Even AIN has had articles on how the biggest selling market for business aircraft is the large cabin Globals and Gulfstreams. Yet, we cannot sell any even though we have lost several owners who were going to buy their own and have us manage them? Wake up!

As Ed alluded to, we are headed in the wrong direction. What we need is honest answers from Bombardier. Our executive team is going to continue to blow smoke up our tail pipes.

Yeah he left however, he needed to go. The company is going in the wrong direction and they need someone to aggressively pursue the market. All he did was sit on his hands and talk about how good he was. Yeah, he was a nice guy but, I think the company needs to go in a different direction and obviously, they are.

 

[fugazi]

All hands conference call Tomorrow.. Sad that it takes a Union threat to get a vision statement. Too little too late bitches!

 

[DirtyBeech]

Reaction is all they know.

 

[ArtVandalay]

Reaction is all they know.

Maybe that's why they get along with the FAA so well. I predict we hear a lot of fodder tomorrow on the big announcement:

"We're steering in the right direction", "Our success comes from YOU", "We're not certain what the market will bear in the future", "Globals are not a dead topic", "What we would like to see is...", "Your service is paramount to the success of flexjet", "Our commitment to providing the best in class service....", What am I forgetting????

 

[gret]

Keeping with the thread topic-

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In a new promotional program announced today, from now until June 12 new Flexjet fractional share owners will be able to attend the Breeders’ Cup races in a finish-line owner’s suite, and they will get a one-on-one meeting with a celebrity trainer. As part of the complimentary three-day package, these new customers will also be treated to a bourbon experience at the famed Buffalo Trace Distillery. Each of the days will end with some “Southern hospitality” at 21c Museum Hotel in downtown Louisville and dinners at award-winning restaurants.[/FONT]​

 

[DirtyBeech]

Maybe that's why they get along with the FAA so well. I predict we hear a lot of fodder tomorrow on the big announcement:

"We're steering in the right direction", "Our success comes from YOU", "We're not certain what the market will bear in the future", "Globals are not a dead topic", "What we would like to see is...", "Your service is paramount to the success of flexjet", "Our commitment to providing the best in class service....", What am I forgetting????

Somehow a quote from Forgetting Sarah Marshall keeps coming to mind. Something like...

Bullsh*t BS BS BS no drinks for me BS BS BS.

I predict many words meaning very little. FG is well on his way to keeping his batting average at 1.000.

 

[Dooker]

Maybe that's why they get along with the FAA so well. I predict we hear a lot of fodder tomorrow on the big announcement:

"We're steering in the right direction", "Our success comes from YOU", "We're not certain what the market will bear in the future", "Globals are not a dead topic", "What we would like to see is...", "Your service is paramount to the success of flexjet", "Our commitment to providing the best in class service....", What am I forgetting????

That pretty much covers it. It will be a theater of the absurd. It always is.

 

[fugazi]

Just heard from someone that works in the office..BK was escorted out by security on his last day.

 

[fugazi]

Just heard from someone that works in the office..BK was escorted out by security on his last day.

 

[FastJP4]

The perfect storm at Flexjet. One of the industry's worst "leaders" (I used that term extremely loosely) followed by an economic meltdown - what could possibly go wrong?

 

[DirtyBeech]

Maybe that's why they get along with the FAA so well. I predict we hear a lot of fodder tomorrow on the big announcement:

"We're steering in the right direction", "Our success comes from YOU", "We're not certain what the market will bear in the future", "Globals are not a dead topic", "What we would like to see is...", "Your service is paramount to the success of flexjet", "Our commitment to providing the best in class service....", What am I forgetting????

Be honest...did you have access to the transcript?

 

[JokerFuel]

Absolutely, and it was the same ol' crap magic show that Reid's been putting on since the rodeo began. He's already been paid
, and the rest if us already know how the tricks work....

 

[ArtVandalay]

What do we know now that we didn't know prior to the call??

 

[JokerFuel]

Further, look back at the May, 2008 posts. It's the same group folks.... The same team.....Well!!!

 

[ArtVandalay]

Be honest...did you have access to the transcript?

I hate being right. I thought it was interesting how abrasive DG was towards us about the call. Kind of like "WELL, we got the horse here, where are your questions?? Come on guys". Kind of like he wanted to throw this in our face to say we are just cry babies and don't know anything. I guess when you come from the regional airlines, that's what you get.

 

[DirtyBeech]

I hate being right. I thought it was interesting how abrasive DG was towards us about the call. Kind of like "WELL, we got the horse here, where are your questions?? Come on guys". Kind of like he wanted to throw this in our face to say we are just cry babies and don't know anything. I guess when you come from the regional airlines, that's what you get.

The man is clueless. This is the same individual who sees just how poorly management rates in the eyes of it's employees via the survey, and openly wonders why he can't get more people to attend their nothing new to report, just shucking some more dime on this hotel and free booze All Hands meetings. Here's a hot tip, we don't believe in you DG.

I love how FR was shocked that his employees weren't getting his vision and felt in the dark. I mean, he sends his retread sales team to our long recurrents along with KP for 45 minutes to get free pizza and schmooze with the pilots. Why, in my last recurrent, they almost managed to make slide 2 of their presentation.

And they don't feel dispatch is undermanned? Dear Lord, having paperwork waiting on me when I arrive is the exception rather than the rule, and that's just paperwork and not the CORRECT paperwork. Quite often, I have to call them about our surprise we've got work for you trips since flight aware is more interested in sending me updates than our folks at the Waterview. Don't get me started on our international department.

That was the perfect opportunity to provide some vision and leadership, and instead we had a 45 minute QA before he could catch a flight to who knows where. You could tell that one comment about sitting on a pile of cash was really eating FR up. Perhaps if you actually knew how to communicate with your employees Mr. Reid, you wouldn't have to set up last minute conference calls to quash rumors and answer questions.

Rant over.

 

[Dooker]

DG = Hosni Mubarek.

They even sorta look the same.

You can only dismiss your people as stupid for so long before they get kind of sick of it.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Anyone else notice the two spirited posts on on BB rumor thread that mysteriously disappeared last week? I wonder if they were told ot take them down

 

[XBI]

Yep, sure did. They were hitting too close to home. The conference call didn't "just happen" for no reason.

 

[eyeamthechosen1]

I was talking to someone who I got furloughed with with from Flex and for the last two years he has been holding on to this pipe dream that he is going to get "called back." I let that place go as soon as I got my phone call from DS. I hope the rest of the guys that are there don't get a bad deal but it's not looking good.

 

[Nolife]

I was holding out hope of recalls as well. It was a good job. Sounds like there might not be anything to go back to however. BTW... what's up with Bombardier. They have been hiring demo pilots, corporate shuttle pilots, etc. from the street. Why not try to get some furloughed guys to fill those spots? Do the different branches not talk to each other or once you're furloughed you don't exist to Bombardier?

 

[ArtVandalay]

I bet we recall some this year. No source. Just my opinion.

 

[Dooker]

I bet we recall some this year. No source. Just my opinion.

Recall? Or re-hire? There's a big dif.

 

[ArtVandalay]

Recall? Or re-hire? There's a big dif.

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Hmmm. Let me create a committee and get back to you on that. When I've compiled all the data, I'll present it to you and then you can tell me the reality of the situation and how it affects the operation..

 

[Necromonger]

We are down to only one solution for "a better Flex." But, don't hold your breath.