Latest at Flexjet?

[wacoflyr]

AAL? Are you kidding me? The antagonistic atmsophere over there took decades of truly monumental pilot and flight attendent abuse to create. I doubt you could find a more poisonous corporate culture this side of... Well, this side of a really screwed up outfit based at PWM.

 

[OHGOON]

I'm not a union basher or supporter, nor do I drink the company koolaid. I just look at what's going on at other companies and weight the pros and cons. Good or bad, some companies need a union, but AT THIS TIME, I don't see a reason for a union here.

As long as the RLA requires that any non-vote counts as an automatic no-vote you are supporting the anti union side whether you want to see that or not.

BTW, when would there be a time for you to see a union on property? I bet it's right around the time your turn comes to justify yourself, alone, in front of management while they try to Monday morning quarterback one of your decisions. All the while your career and livelyhood hang in the balance.....Bet you'll have trouble even remembering the Cons then?

 

[Club ORD FO]

If/when the furloughed folks come back, do they start at year one pay, whatever the left at, or whatever they would be at had they been continually employed? Anyone know?

 

[Boxer]

If/when the furloughed folks come back, do they start at year one pay, whatever the left at, or whatever they would be at had they been continually employed? Anyone know?

Yup, that is something I would like to know too...

 

[Dooker]

Sounds like some former colonists prior to the revolution. "The King isn't so bad, do we really need independence..."

If it hadn't been for the Stamp Act and a bunch of other dumb things ol' King George tried to ram down our throats, we might still be part of the Commonwealth.

So far, Flex hasn't done anything that stupid.

 

[Nolife]

If it hadn't been for the Stamp Act and a bunch of other dumb things ol' King George tried to ram down our throats, we might still be part of the Commonwealth. So far, Flex hasn't done anything that stupid.

The point isn't "wait for life to become miserable then act." It's always good to have a say in one's destiny, a seat at the table so to speak. If the membership is happy then they won't ask for too much over what the company offers. People tend to resort to the emotional argument against unions instead of a logical argument for unions. Unions aren't rep or dem, they are simply laborers getting together and deciding they want some control over their work-place.

 

[Praetorian]

Yes, we have the newly founded Focus Group.

That's too bad. This is a sure sign they have hired a "union avoidance consultant".

"Shefferman advised management to institute a device called an employee roundtable. Purportedly designed to give workers a way to air their grievances and influence company policy, in reality the roundtable becomes management's tap into the worker grapevine and its repressive thumb on the informal worker power structure. The regular group meetings provided management with a system for planting information, as well as for identifying and controlling the leaders among employees." Martin Levitt, Confessions of a Union Buster

 

[Dooker]

That's too bad. This is a sure sign they have hired a "union avoidance consultant".

"Shefferman advised management to institute a device called an employee roundtable. Purportedly designed to give workers a way to air their grievances and influence company policy, in reality the roundtable becomes management's tap into the worker grapevine and its repressive thumb on the informal worker power structure. The regular group meetings provided management with a system for planting information, as well as for identifying and controlling the leaders among employees." Martin Levitt, Confessions of a Union Buster

Give us some credit.

Nobody actually believed the focus group (or, before it, the CAB) would accomplish anything significant. It's been almost universally derided as monkey shine, and rightly so. Also, I would argue that the real leaders among the pilot group have stayed well away from it.

 

[SDCFI]

So someone on another "pro pilot" forum said the CAFO program is going away. I haven't heard anything on the line or the BB, can anyone confirm this?

 

[Boxer]

If it hadn't been for the Stamp Act and a bunch of other dumb things ol' King George tried to ram down our throats, we might still be part of the Commonwealth.

So far, Flex hasn't done anything that stupid.

The Stamp Act wasn't George's idea. Your point is well taken but keep that in mind.