kissing a... derriers

[choppengruven]

650 driver

I also get a kick when I ask an airline pilot to go load 2 SUVs of bags while I go back in the FBO and take 30 mins to pay for the fuel.

Class Act

 

[650 driver]

Does the dog pay union dues?


650

 

[LXJ31]

Look at all the problems the fracs are having.
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Sorry to drift off thread but WTF are you talking about?

 

[semperfido]

Yes, we see all those airline blunders in the sim at FSI or Simuflite, they have the Delta L1011 at DFW that went thru the downburst and of course the AA chief pilot at LIT that did not make it.

We have learned alot from the airlines in terms of unstabilized approachs.


I also get a kick when I ask an airline pilot to go load 2 SUVs of bags while I go back in the FBO and take 30 mins to pay for the fuel.

650


650

thats some attitude ya got there 650

 

[choppengruven]

650 driver = Citation Vacation

 

[semperfido]

And ask an airline pilot the phone number to FSS, they head for the phone book.
650

650: and i am corp pilot and i couldn't tell you how to contact an fss, as i haven't called an fss in at least 15 yrs. the point is to NOT try to lump people together in an attempt to marginalize them.

skyaddict: when/if you go the corp route you have to forget the past and focus on the new job. keep your expectations real. focus on the positive. and if you find yourself in a less than perfect situation---then you can change that in time. you are the master of your ship. go for it.

 

[TurboJetCpt]

Umm news for ya. The hardest interview I ever had was at a fractional. Pull out a chart of KASE and see how much you really know, or KEGE,KSUN, You'll find out you forgotten more about jep charts than your mother in laws false teeth. Frac flying is totally different than airline flying and I"m not talking about kissing passengers ass. but more the fact you fly anywhere and everywhere at a moments notice or less. I flew airlines and it was always the same. But here you land at a place youve never been, file a flight plan, and take off to a place youve never been. And sleep at a place you didnt expect.

Interesting....the EASIEST interview I have ever had was at NUTJETS. Also the SHORTEST ! Hired...no problem. Ex-airline guys are definitely welcome here ! And bring your union bat...you'll need it for the next 2 to 3 years while we re-hash this contract out...or as the company goes straight OUT OF BUSINESS !

 

[tailhookah]

Boyz....

When are you corporate guys going to accept the airline guys... a lot of airline guys were once corporate guys. But I would be willing to bet, outside of the current environment, there are very few airline guys who would ever quit the airlines to go back to corporate (unless they were furloughed or are over 60 and have quite an impressive stable of x-wives to feed). Most (read 99%) of the career corporate guys I've flown w/ all say the same thing about the airlines.... they wish they went to "the show"... not having to suck @ss, clean the plane, be on the hook all the time, etc.

I'm not preaching to you in particular "650 driver" but your arrogance and envy are surely coming out from your last posts. I love flying the small jets around and I will even admit there are things in the corporate world that airline guys don't ever worry about, it's just the nature of the system.... that doesn't mean there is any difference in ability.... i would say the opposite.... it's harder to land an airline gig than a corporate gig... especially someone w/ 10k+ hours like you. I bet you had 5-6K+ hours and the end of the 90's when the airlines were sucking up guys left and right.... someone with your hours and so called "expertise" in the "real world" of flying would certainly have been wooed by the majors.... or maybe they did interview you and realized like the rest of us on this board that you are just a tool...........

ps- as to your comment on 121 accidents relating to unstabilized approaches????? Very low man.... there have been just as many or more accidents in the "corporate side", especially lately..... slamming anyone about bending metal is just down low ignorant and just plain rude....watch out dude: what goes around, comes around.


Skyaddict: go and "play" in the fracs... you'll have fun and occasionally you will have to deal with the a-holes like 650 driver... most of the passengers are cool and you'll do fine.... if you have the inquisitive nature to research your future moves then you are the type of guy who'll do just fine.... just bite your lip if you ever run across 650 driver b/c most of the corporate guys are not tools like him.... i've found that most corporate guys i've flown w/ accepted my airline experience with open arms and ALL of them have told me they will hunt me down and beat me if they ever heard I passed on my recall or didn't go to one of the LCC's or freight carriers if i ever got the chance.....

PSS- 650.... all of the career corporate guys I've flown w/ were also the most understanding when it came to loading, cleaning and restocking of the a/c.... they always busted their ass to help me during crunch time or just to help out.... they never would go in and watch me bust my butt while they "lounged".... you really are a tool.....

tailhookah

 

[AA717driver]

650--I'm ex-121 and I don't mind loading the back of the plane full of bags and boxes. I don't mind hauling trash or restocking the galley. It's part of the job.

But don't tell anyone which career path to take. How big an A$$hole would I have been to tell the corporate pilots who bailed out of their $35k/yr. citation jobs in the '80's and '90's for the big bucks of the airlines that they had no business doing so?

There are good and bad pilots in every sector of the business. There are a$$holes in every sector, too. I think we've verified that.

fido--excellent attitude. Thanks.TC

 

[650 driver]

Looks good
650

 

[tailhookah]

650.....

I don't like when guys start character assassinations on this board but you leave me no out..... first) I don't like ALPA.... I think ALPA has gotten too big, too out of touch with reality but,...... the current situation w/ the airlines is not labor's fault anymore. Labor has given and given and the majors are still losing way too much money.... this now points to an inept and greedy management system who has been too busy taking steam baths at the country club over a martini lunch while they scheme to set up an exit strategy for their golden parachutes....when a company is in ch11 and labor has given to the extreme and the company continues to loose 1-3 million A DAY, you can't point your finger at labor. If you do (and you are) then it shows your ignorance. Second) learn proper grammar and spelling... I said I would never assassinate anyone on this board for spelling or grammar but if you are in an argument with someone at least get your grammar close to acceptable standards. If everyone in corporate aviation was like you it would've failed years ago.... I will put you in the "exception" category. I've flown with a lot of corporate guys/girls and you are not even in their (not there) league......



tail........

 

[650 driver]

good post


650

 

[JJthejetplane]

I have flown on both sides, airline and corporate. Is one better than the other? I don't think so. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. I did notice one thing they both have in common, though. There is always a small percentage in both groups that feel they are god's gift to aviation. I see a small handful of pilots at the airlines that think that corporate aviators are subpar, and I see about the same percentage at the corporate level that feel airline pilots are egotistical. One thing that both of these inferior feeling pilots have in common is that they are usually the weak and unprofessional of the group. They have to have there way or they start crying. They are quick to point out how they are superior, but they don't listen to other peoples ideas and try to improve themselves. A lot of times the "bad" captains share this attitude. They are the ones that cut corners and break rules, all the while accusing other pilots of not being as professional or talented. I don't know 650, but I bet he is one of those types. Fellas, we are all in the same profession here. We all fly airplanes for a living. You can argue all day and night about who has the hardest job or who is the best pilot, but it basically comes down to one thing. We fly airplanes, fly in the same airspace, and try not to die or kill anyone else. Some people still watch Top Gun too much and feel all pilots should try to out do the others. Funny to watch these guys! Next time you meet one of these types, try to get him started. If he is airline, tell him corporate is better, and vice versa. Hey 650, Airline pilots are better! LOL

 

[skyaddict]

Very well said, JJthejetplane. I have seen the same thing at every level. Military pilots who view civies as weak sissies or civilians who military ones as authoritarian automatons, part 61 trained vs part 141 trained, the list goes on and on of the labels and generalizations that groups of aviators try to come up with to rationalize that they are superior, when the fact is we all fly airplanes and we all have people with good and people with bad attitudes.

 

[TurboJetCpt]

650 is another one of those, "nobody worth a crap hired me, so I will pay $10k for my frac job !" The same guy/gal who will say, "I decided to make Nutjets a career, and it turns out I was right." Nobody had a 9/11 crystal ball but everybody understands that you have ALWAYS been an extremely LOW PAID FLIGHT HO' Mister Nutjets 650 "driver."

I have the list of all major airline pilots that have intentionally left that nasty 121 job for the "dream frac" job...it is posted below.

1.

-End-

 

[learflyer]

Bro, none of us paid for our Frac job.

 

[135fr8r]

I always thought it was kissing some rich guys arse when you accept a regional job for 20k per year.

 

[Ultra Grump]

Why are you digging up a year-and-a-half-old thread?

 

[135fr8r]

Because I was searching for something specific, and ran across this one. Why are you reading a 3 year old thread?

 

[cjdriver]

Flew corporate with a Delta furlough. Scared the bejeezes out of me several times. If it ain't 10000 feet long he's gonna scare you. And god help ya on the circle to land at Hilton Head, Jeesuus.