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Fins Up said:
Wow. Only a complete tool keeps a website of himself like that. When I was flying in the reserves we passed on a guy specifically because he had a website like that.
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Scary thing is that he won the most votes in the run off. Hope people wise up! The company would love to have him on the PVC. He is happy with benefits and retirement as they stand now and has openly stated that if you want the benefits of Fed Ex or another similar carrier that you should go work their instead.

http://jaredyates.com/pages/hireme/pilot.shtml
 
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Very, Very disappointing that this guy is in the runoff. I am sure most of the silo that voted for him didn't even read the discussion questions or they would have seen where he tells his follow pilots they should just leave JetBlue if they express concerns about our retirement and compensation. How is he supposed to make anything better when he clearly states he believes the retirement and compensation, in addition to every other aspect of our company, is perfectly acceptable and at least as good if not better than every other major airline!
David Torres sent an email prior to the election trying to pool the votes for Yates. Hopefully, Yates will not get any additional votes in the runoff, whereas anybody naive enough to vote for him as already done so. However, I never cease to be amazed at the decisions people make that negatively affect their and my future.
 
Otto77 said:
By the way silo 7 peeps.. Vote for Clapper. We need as many "pro pilot" people in there as possible. The opposition is this..

http://jaredyates.com/pages/hireme/school.shtml
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I'll second this, Yates is NOT what we need here representing us. If you are in Silo 7 PLEASE go to the company site and read the blog.

PLEASE read this guys... whatever you wanna call it and all 50 responces to him.
 
JJthejetplane said:
Very, Very disappointing that this guy is in the runoff. I am sure most of the silo that voted for him didn't even read the discussion questions or they would have seen where he tells his follow pilots they should just leave JetBlue if they express concerns about our retirement and compensation. How is he supposed to make anything better when he clearly states he believes the retirement and compensation, in addition to every other aspect of our company, is perfectly acceptable and at least as good if not better than every other major airline!
David Torres sent an email prior to the election trying to pool the votes for Yates. Hopefully, Yates will not get any additional votes in the runoff, whereas anybody naive enough to vote for him as already done so. However, I never cease to be amazed at the decisions people make that negatively affect their and my future.
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That's true... The guy I liked didn't even make it to the run-off.
 
JJthejetplane said:
Very, Very disappointing that this guy is in the runoff. I am sure most of the silo that voted for him didn't even read the discussion questions or they would have seen where he tells his follow pilots they should just leave JetBlue if they express concerns about our retirement and compensation. How is he supposed to make anything better when he clearly states he believes the retirement and compensation, in addition to every other aspect of our company, is perfectly acceptable and at least as good if not better than every other major airline!
David Torres sent an email prior to the election trying to pool the votes for Yates. Hopefully, Yates will not get any additional votes in the runoff, whereas anybody naive enough to vote for him as already done so. However, I never cease to be amazed at the decisions people make that negatively affect their and my future.
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Who is this? The name sounds familiar, is he based in MCO? How did he send the email, did he have send rights?
 
crash312 said:
Who is this? The name sounds familiar, is he based in MCO? How did he send the email, did he have send rights?
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There is more than one pilot David Torres. I have a hard time seeing the MCO pilot, "Burrito", advocating for this guy.

The second question is very interesting, since it seems pro-company pilots have developed a method to campaign using the company email system without repercussion. Some of them were broadcast to everyone anonymously, but many were sent as "personal" emails. You could do the same by simply creating your own distribution list, but you never know who in management would crack down on you, while letting other traffic continue. Personally, I take a hard stance on this kind of thing, and I think all such traffic ought to be banned outright on the company email system, but it appears some animals are more equal than others here.
 
David Torres was an October 2010 new hire. He is a E90 JFK FO. His email was sent as a "personal" email. He came to the pilot ranks after working AO and inflight. Scott Alexander, another 9E pilot as was Torres, sent an email through the distribution list advocating Yates. Shortly after, there was an email from Yoder condoning this action. Alexander didn't have send rights, and it is "unknown" how this action took place.
 
BeachBummer said:
I'll second this, Yates is NOT what we need here representing us. If you are in Silo 7 PLEASE go to the company site and read the blog.

PLEASE read this guys... whatever you wanna call it and all 50 responces to him.
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Found it.

HOW DO YOU VOTE? It says "elections open", and I can read all kinds of info and banter, but how can I vote?
 
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Log in to hellojetblue.com. Select the "Pilots" page under "Departments." There is a big yellow banner at the top of the page that says "PVC Elections Now Open Click Here for more Info!" Click on that banner. Once logged in to that page, on the left side of the page under "Discussions," click on "Seniority Block 7 Discussion."
 
JJthejetplane said:
Log in to hellojetblue.com. Select the "Pilots" page under "Departments." There is a big yellow banner at the top of the page that says "PVC Elections Now Open Click Here for more Info!" Click on that banner. Once logged in to that page, on the left side of the page under "Discussions," click on "Seniority Block 7 Discussion."
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OK, I found that. How do I actually vote?
 
direct quote on the pvc discussion for folks that are too lazy to go on the company computer:

From Yates himself..

"Hi xxx, while there is always room for improvement, I am happy with the level of compensation and benefits here. If I were not, why would I be working here? That leads me to ask, if Southwest, Alaska, and Delta have much better overall compensation packages, then why don't you work there instead? Each of us has a different perspective, but personally, I don't work at those places because on the whole, there are factors that make JetBlue a better option. Therefore I don't pick a few issues and focus on how they are better at the other carriers- I appreciate the aspects of JetBlue that are superior, and focus on doing my job well. If you elect me to the PVC, yes, I will advocate for improvements. Philosophically speaking, I do think it is reasonable for us to be compensated at a comparable level to our competitors. The complicating factor is that what one pilot sees as an improvement, another may not. That's why, as I suggested in the last reply, it is indeed important to survey the group periodically to determine the most important priorities, and that is how I would plan to proceed. I think it is unrealistic to put every issue and every little decision to a pilot vote, but when it comes to big issues and/or periodic opinion surveys, pilot input is crucial. I have not yet researched the reports from years past, though if elected, I plan to read as many as possible. Learning is the one thing that I do better than anything else, and I do lots of it. Keep the questions coming, and thank you again for taking this process seriously!"
 
Smarta$$ said:
Somehow, I didn't. In one of the updates, they made reference to Vote Net, but I didn't get an email from them.
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Definitely follow up on that. Every vote counts. PVC isn't the best thing, but its all we have right now so we need quality folks in those positions.
 
Smarta$$ said:
Somehow, I didn't. In one of the updates, they made reference to Vote Net, but I didn't get an email from them.
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Dumb question, but are you sure in in a silo that has an opening? My silo has no vacancies so I don't get to vote.
 
Otto77 said:
direct quote on the pvc discussion for folks that are too lazy to go on the company computer:

From Yates himself..

"Hi xxx, while there is always room for improvement, I am happy with the level of compensation and benefits here. If I were not, why would I be working here? That leads me to ask, if Southwest, Alaska, and Delta have much better overall compensation packages, then why don't you work there instead? Each of us has a different perspective, but personally, I don't work at those places because on the whole, there are factors that make JetBlue a better option. Therefore I don't pick a few issues and focus on how they are better at the other carriers- I appreciate the aspects of JetBlue that are superior, and focus on doing my job well. If you elect me to the PVC, yes, I will advocate for improvements. Philosophically speaking, I do think it is reasonable for us to be compensated at a comparable level to our competitors. The complicating factor is that what one pilot sees as an improvement, another may not. That's why, as I suggested in the last reply, it is indeed important to survey the group periodically to determine the most important priorities, and that is how I would plan to proceed. I think it is unrealistic to put every issue and every little decision to a pilot vote, but when it comes to big issues and/or periodic opinion surveys, pilot input is crucial. I have not yet researched the reports from years past, though if elected, I plan to read as many as possible. Learning is the one thing that I do better than anything else, and I do lots of it. Keep the questions coming, and thank you again for taking this process seriously!"
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This should be posted somewhere as what not to say when you're running for election.
 

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