JetBlue & American

[Dizel8]

"I look fwd to when we have it demolished...and rebuilt."

You mean when AA rebuilds it?

 

[aewanabe]

The terminal stuff is interesting (and scary); think AA to a rebuilt T5/T6, DL to T8, and all sorts of nefarious thing that investors love and aren't great for either pilot group.

 

[Sailpilot]

T6 is vacant...and we still have rights to it...so noone else is going in there.

The CEO of AMR disagrees with you. "Co-locate" was the quote...

I think I believe the guy who runs AA more then the guy on flightinfo to tell me what AA is going to do.

No disrespect, just think you missed the part that this was from AA?

 

[clickclickboom]

Announcement for the demo of T6 and rebuild as an international terminal will be announced in the next 30 days. It will have approx 10 gates and will have a people mover connector to terminal 5. JB currently pays $10 per passenger to use Term 4 and it is very costly

In addition to normal slated deliveries for 2010 look for 7 additional 320's this year to support new growth. Hiring getting ready.

4 to 5 MORE Interline agreements with international carriers to be announced this year.

NEW FSM: Gives litle to no improvement to line holders, reserves have lost ground, crew scheduling not has even more rope to hang themselves with imcompetence. Takes money out of the lineholders pocket and works reserves harder with less time at home.

 

[rider850]

JB pilots... when is the representation light going to come on?

Funny thread. OK, Rez. Tell us all what you would do to represent? The APA is hiding in their cars in the parking lot. Where would you be? In the trunk I presume. LMAO

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Funny thread. OK, Rez. Tell us all what you would do to represent? The APA is hiding in their cars in the parking lot. Where would you be? In the trunk I presume. LMAO

Hopefully the JB pilots will come out clean...... on the other side.....

 

[rider850]

Hopefully the JB pilots will come out clean...... on the other side.....

Fair enough. Hope your right.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Fair enough. Hope your right.

I'd rather be represented than hope.... but that's me.....

Consider going to any legal proceeding and actively choosing not to have a lawyer, all while the "other" side has a lawyer.

 

[DonVersteed]

I think the co-locate they were referring to was British Airways

The CEO of AMR disagrees with you. "Co-locate" was the quote...

I think I believe the guy who runs AA more then the guy on flightinfo to tell me what AA is going to do.

No disrespect, just think you missed the part that this was from AA?

This quote shocked me so I read the Q&A session with the employees and in this Q&A session if it is the one you are referring to is about British Airways and American Co-locating at t8 not Jetblue. Maybe I missed something but here is the article and here is the quote.http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/04/american-airlines-tells-employ.html
Q: Are American Airlines and British Airways going to co-locate at JFK?
A: We, along with British Airways, are currently evaluating a proposal by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to develop an expansion of the new state-of-the-art $1.3 billion international Terminal 8 to allow our two airlines to co-locate our operations. We designed Terminal 8 expressly to meet the needs of modern customers traveling internationally, and the potential expansion and joint operation of the facility by American and British Airways would allow quick and easy customer connections from airline to airline. If agreeable financial terms can be reached with the Port, the potential co-location would be quite beneficial to our employees and customers.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

While it may be folly to think that JetBlue gave away more international widebody flying (considering we don't have any widebodies, other than Sandman and 75% of the FAs) ... JetBlue just gave away more international widebody flying.

Seat at the table? Yeah -- the kiddies table in the kitchen.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

From JB news:


JetBlue Achieves IATA Operational Safety Audit (IOSA) Registration

The International Air Transport Association (IATA) Operational Safety Audit (IOSA) is an internationally accepted evaluation system designed to assess the operational management and control systems of an airline. (IOSA) is the benchmark for global safety management in airlines. All IATA members have to become IOSA registered in order to become and maintain IATA membership. JetBlue will apply for IATA membership to enhance our code share opportunities.

Benefits of IOSA Registration
IOSA has been designed to help airlines share audit resources and reduce the overall number of audits performed. Airlines enjoy significant cost savings through these reductions as well as a wide range of additional benefits, including:

• Increased code share opportunities
• Controlled system to share audit results
• IATA quality assurance

Somehow this one has slipped through the Bluepilots crack. This keeps on gettin' better and better ...

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Seat at the table? Yeah -- the kiddies table in the kitchen.

More like an unstable ironing board to eat off of....

From JB news:


JetBlue Achieves IATA Operational Safety Audit (IOSA) Registration

The International Air Transport Association (IATA) Operational Safety Audit (IOSA) is an internationally accepted evaluation system designed to assess the operational management and control systems of an airline. (IOSA) is the benchmark for global safety management in airlines. All IATA members have to become IOSA registered in order to become and maintain IATA membership. JetBlue will apply for IATA membership to enhance our code share opportunities.

Benefits of IOSA Registration
IOSA has been designed to help airlines share audit resources and reduce the overall number of audits performed. Airlines enjoy significant cost savings through these reductions as well as a wide range of additional benefits, including:

• Increased code share opportunities
• Controlled system to share audit results
• IATA quality assurance

Somehow this one has slipped through the Bluepilots crack. This keeps on gettin' better and better ...

I am sure most don't get it....... as Leslie Neilson said in Naked Gun.... Nothing to see here... move along... nothing to see.....

 

[Dizel8]

Rez,

I think most are starting to get it, the writing on the wall is in increasingly larger fonts.

 

[rider850]

I'd rather be represented than hope.... but that's me.....

Consider going to any legal proceeding and actively choosing not to have a lawyer, all while the "other" side has a lawyer.

I would rather have representation,also. If,that actually existed. We have OUTSOURCE ME ALPA in this corner wearing the red trunks at 55 lbs and we have Airline Management in this corner wearing the blue trunks weighing in at
275 lbs.

Consider going into any legal proceeding and having your representative sell you down the river. All while the "other" side smiles.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Rez,

I think most are starting to get it, the writing on the wall is in increasingly larger fonts.

ok, what's the plan.....

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I would rather have representation,also. If,that actually existed. We have OUTSOURCE ME ALPA in this corner wearing the red trunks at 55 lbs and we have Airline Management in this corner wearing the blue trunks weighing in at
275 lbs.

Consider going into any legal proceeding and having your representative sell you down the river. All while the "other" side smiles.

Welcome to America. Capitalism (aka De-regulation) to airline pilots; how do you like me now?

 

[Dizel8]

ok, what's the plan.....

You are a smart guy, sure you can figure it out

 

[S3sundowner]

Mo money

Maybe the sky isn't fallling...

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10724469/1/airline-deals-boost-jetblue-growth.html

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Maybe the sky isn't fallling...

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10724469/1/airline-deals-boost-jetblue-growth.html

What does this mean? That JB won't be bought out, or scoped out?

Just because you are doing good doesn't mean the sharks aren't interested.....

 

[CFIT]

JB pilots... when is the representation light going to come on?

Probably never. After they saw the prideful editorial piece done on the latest F-16 pilot, by one (of many) 130K a year ALPA journalist, they have lost any remaining faith. They would be smarter to go with APA branch representation.

Besides, it's not like every other ALPO repped pilot group isn't in some code share junket as well, and most are with overseas airlines.

Even if American and JB were under ALPO's dismal disorganization this would have still happened, nothing would be different.