JetBlue & American

[JipWiz]

American Airlines and JetBlue Airways today announced an agreement for commercial collaboration in New York and Boston that benefits customers of both airlines. The agreement will provide customers with interline service in non-overlapping markets, which will offer them more choices and convenient connections. The companies are also exploring other commercial cooperation.

The partnership will focus on routes into and out of JFK and Boston Logan International Airport that extend and complement each others' networks. For example, it would provide seamless service for customers who wish to fly nonstop from Nantucket to JFK on JetBlue and from there to London on American. Likewise, customers can board American from Paris to JFK and connect to a nonstop flight on JetBlue to Burlington, Vt. JetBlue customers will be able to effortlessly connect on flights to 12 of American's international destinations from JFK and Boston including Barcelona, Spain; Sao Paulo, Brazil; and Tokyo, Japan.

On domestic routes where the carriers don't currently compete, American customers can book convenient, nonstop JetBlue flights from JFK and Boston to 18 domestic markets, including Portland, Maine; Nantucket, Mass.; and Burlington, Vt.

Under terms of the agreement, American intends to transfer eight slot pairs at Ronald Reagan National Airport and one slot pair at White Plains, N.Y. to JetBlue, and JetBlue intends to transfer 12 slot pairs at JFK to American.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

If you can't beat them, join them?

 

[maxblast72]

APA and Eagle ALPA can't be thrilled that Jetblue is going to provide domestic feed to American's BOS and JFK international hubs. Why can't AMR mainline or Eagle crews provide this lift?

 

[Yuppyguppy]

i see a merger/buyout

 

[Dizel8]

Odd combination indeed!

 

[J32driver]

Oh... this explains why the bluepilots board is down... AGAIN. Holding hands with AA huh? Wow... WTFO? Yep.... AA and Eagle should be doing this lift, not us.

This hurts growth opportunities at both airlines. Why would JetBlue ever expand again when we can just have our customers buy tickets on AA?

Guess its time to go to that truck driving school... what was that... Truckmasters I think?

 

[ugasucks]

Will the Southwest pilots whine on here about this slot swap too!

 

[B6Busdriver]

Will the Southwest pilots whine on here about this slot swap too!

I'm sure. Southwest should always have dibs on everything first, right?

 

[Kharma Police]

This sounds fantastic! How many pilots does AA have on furlough?

 

[Headfake14]

i see a merger/buyout

Jeezus!! That took only 4 posts. No more Delta/Jetblue rumors. Now it's all AA?!

We just got pass agreements on big D a couple weeks ago...this mean we're merging with them again too?

Waaaaait...I know, it'll be something like Deltameriblue Mega Airlines

 

[a320drivr]

No dl just gave us back the agreement we had with Nwa. If this aa thing doesn't seriously concern you then you are an idiot. Probably just as bad as these mil fo's I fly with that have no idea what scope is. You know what's next? Dl, ua, republic. You name it. The company is being very smart about this and calling it interline and not a codeshare so the smart pilots don't get all upset but all this is, is a back door way in.

 

[B6Busdriver]

Jeezus!! That took only 4 posts. No more Delta/Jetblue rumors. Now it's all AA?!

We just got pass agreements on big D a couple weeks ago...this mean we're merging with them again too?

Waaaaait...I know, it'll be something like Deltameriblue Mega Airlines

Yep, everything is fine. Dave will take care of us. We don't need a union, they are working on it. When does this group stop acting like a doormat?

 

[curtaindriver]

No dl just gave us back the agreement we had with Nwa. If this aa thing doesn't seriously concern you then you are an idiot. Probably just as bad as these mil fo's I fly with that have no idea what scope is. You know what's next? Dl, ua, republic. You name it. The company is being very smart about this and calling it interline and not a codeshare so the smart pilots don't get all upset but all this is, is a back door way in.

So, all of the APA pilots are dumb? Because, AA has pretty good scope protection, and this is being allowed on their end as well. A back door in to what exactly....320's and 190's?

I'm all for scope and a CBA.....but sometimes I think this stuff is just what it's being said it is........maybe I'm dumb.

CD

 

[a320drivr]

Yep. Dave cares too much about the brand. Those of you that have been using that argument the last 9 years can throw that out the door. Wake up people!!!!

 

[a320drivr]

So, all of the APA pilots are dumb? Because, AA has pretty good scope protection, and this is being allowed on their end as well. A back door in to what exactly....320's and 190's?

I'm all for scope and a CBA.....but sometimes I think this stuff is just what it's being said it is........maybe I'm dumb.

CD

I can guarantee the apa blowing a nut over this. If you commute on them, have fun. I'm sure you will get an earful and they have every right to do so.

 

[AlbieF15]

Outsider looking in only (so throw your shoes if you must...), but giving up JFK slots expand in DCA sounds pretty smart to me. JB gets crushed whenever NYC goes down for weather. Having more cities and more options seems like a win/win. I don't see JB guys to London or Europe anytime soon, so the extra overflow of folks might be good for them.

If I were an AA guy, however, I might be questioning this one. Are they just surrendering some of the domestic market?

 

[Full of LUV]

See....

Outsider looking in only (so throw your shoes if you must...), but giving up JFK slots expand in DCA sounds pretty smart to me. JB gets crushed whenever NYC goes down for weather. Having more cities and more options seems like a win/win. I don't see JB guys to London or Europe anytime soon, so the extra overflow of folks might be good for them.

If I were an AA guy, however, I might be questioning this one. Are they just surrendering some of the domestic market?

See, Albie says good for Jetblue. Hope there is still money in the merger fund if it comes to that, or does the company have to look out for you?

I really like the part in the article where Arpey waxes eloquent on the brand and product of Jetblue, but when asked by a reporter if he has ever flown on Jetblue, he says, well "no".

Luv

 

[relief tube]

the future of airline growth......codesharing.

yay. so now a buncha jb pilots do the work american should be doing.

that's what we get for having $39 fares

 

[FNG320]

Yep. Dave cares too much about the brand. Those of you that have been using that argument the last 9 years can throw that out the door. Wake up people!!!!

Dave cares about the brand and "organic growth" right up to the point that business says to stop. If it improves his paycheck then that is what he is going to do. Regardless of how affects the pilots and other employees. He will sell us down the river on the fastest boat if it is good for His pay, the BOD, the stock holders, the customers. Notice the employees are not on the list.

Just my opinion......

FNG

 

[a320drivr]

Now they are talking about merging ff programs and not ruling out jb joining one world