Jetblew Is MESSED up!

[Flyer1015]

The grass is greener on the other side. I'll be starting 3rd year Airbus FO pay soon and it will be 80/hr. If I had JetBlue's $96.21/hr that would mean $18,000-19,000 more for 2014! $96/hr is like 2nd year legacy FO pay for the A320. I know the premium pay is gone, but the actual increase in higher rates puts better pressure on the other LCCs (Frontier/Virgin/Spirit) to bring up their pay.

 

[kommutrdog]

The grass is greener on the other side. I'll be starting 3rd year Airbus FO pay soon and it will be 80/hr. If I had JetBlue's $96.21/hr that would mean $18,000-19,000 more for 2014! $96/hr is like 2nd year legacy FO pay for the A320. I know the premium pay is gone, but the actual increase in higher rates puts better pressure on the other LCCs (Frontier/Virgin/Spirit) to bring up their pay.

People are pi**ed because the company just completely ignored the agreed-upon peer-set average without any discussion whatsoever. Throw in the Walmart-quality healthcare plans which bluejet pilots now have and the fact we have ZERO INPUT on anything and you get an idea of why it's not all roses in the land of bluejet.

I didn't become an airline pilot so my wife and I have Walmart-quality healthcare with out-of-pocket limits of upwards of $13,400 annually.

Yes, you read that last part correctly.

One has to look at much more than just the hourly numbers. Pay doesn't mean squat without enforceable work rules and bluejet pilots have ZERO say in what goes into our 100% company-controlled "Flight Scheduling Manual".

 

[Ski-N-Fly]

People are pi**ed because the company just completely ignored the agreed-upon peer-set average without any discussion whatsoever. Throw in the Walmart-quality healthcare plans which bluejet pilots now have and the fact we have ZERO INPUT on anything and you get an idea of why it's not all roses in the land of bluejet.

I didn't become an airline pilot so my wife and I have Walmart-quality healthcare with out-of-pocket limits of upwards of $13,400 annually.

Yes, you read that last part correctly.

One has to look at much more than just the hourly numbers. Pay doesn't mean squat without enforceable work rules and bluejet pilots have ZERO say in what goes into our 100% company-controlled "Flight Scheduling Manual".

 

[Flyer1015]

13,400 max out of pocket is exorbitant! Yikes

 

[N311HK]

Guy in my crash pad. 12 days in a row, 40 hrs credit. 4 three days in a row; each worth 10hrs. Awesome work rules.

 

[oldxfr8dog]

Guy in my crash pad. 12 days in a row, 40 hrs credit. 4 three days in a row; each worth 10hrs. Awesome work rules.

Yeah, but... Hey!
That jet is practically NEW!

I hope his apps are out, as yours should be!

And good luck!

 

[N311HK]

Prob is he's a captain. I've got 7 years at B6 but will leave in a heartbeat. But until I get a call, I'm here to battle. Hopefully guys will come together but I doubt it.

 

[oldxfr8dog]

Prob is he's a captain. I've got 7 years at B6 but will leave in a heartbeat. But until I get a call, I'm here to battle. Hopefully guys will come together but I doubt it.

Did you mean it's a prob that he's a Capt? So what, as long as he has 15-20 years left! Maybe even 10 years! Our sched will NOT improve without a CBA and even then negociations will take years.
RUN!
I think that the 3rd time will be the charm, but it will be a tough slog to a CBA. Some ELT guy already threatened at last ALPA vote that they would drag their feet on negociations (sounds like not negociating in good faith, to me).
Maybe 3-engine taxis will cause them to reconsider their strategy...

 

[Pattern-Master]

Guy in my crash pad. 12 days in a row, 40 hrs credit. 4 three days in a row; each worth 10hrs. Awesome work rules.

Yikes!

 

[Ski-N-Fly]

Did you mean it's a prob that he's a Capt? So what, as long as he has 15-20 years left! Maybe even 10 years! Our sched will NOT improve without a CBA and even then negociations will take years.
RUN!
I think that the 3rd time will be the charm, but it will be a tough slog to a CBA. Some ELT guy already threatened at last ALPA vote that they would drag their feet on negociations (sounds like not negociating in good faith, to me).
Maybe 3-engine taxis will cause them to reconsider their strategy...

I am guessing that WHEN we vote in a union, our current ELT won't be around for much longer. And no matter what any member of the current ELT says, I'd sooner trust a total stranger. I look forward to negotiating our first CBA.

 

[StarChecker]

Seems this latest affront to what used to be the most productive and cooperative pilot group in the industry has mercifully silenced the few remaining JetBlue apologists.

They are finally on the endangered species list. Not that they care....


"It's not so bad here"
"I made $200,000 last year"
"I'm on Tricare so I don't really worry about that."
"You shouldn't count on a company for your retirement."
"All these guys leaving is good for you....you'll see some movement."

"Get out of my way, I have PA's to make and seat backs to clean out."...Ok I made this one up. But the rest are actual quotes.


Mercifully.....an endangered species.


Let's put this atrocity out of its misery.

 

[DASHDRIVER]

For those of us non JetBlue folks. What is the"ELT"?

 

[jonjuan]

For those of us non JetBlue folks. What is the"ELT"?

Elmo Likes Titties

 

[Booster]

We are 18% behind our peers (pay only) and their touted 13% raise is really only a 6% raise at my 90 hrs of credit. (They took our premium pay away)

I'm pissed.

Don't sign the new PEA and you still have Premium Pay.

 

[filejw]

You folks need to meet B O B from NWA. Only thing Iv seen really work in 30 plus years of this....JFK LAX at .69 and taxing out at 6kts will get some attention ...