Jetblew Is MESSED up!

[Ski-N-Fly]

For those of us non JetBlue folks. What is the"ELT"?

ELT = Executive Leadership Team. See below......

 

[GuppyPuppy]

The real solution is to have some balls and leave.

Wish I could.

But, it's not easy replacing $180k/yr. at my age.

GP

 

[N311HK]

Wish I could.

But, it's not easy replacing $180k/yr. at my age.

GP

I know. It's not gonna be easy for me either. But.....the writing is now on the wall esp with all the mergers complete. The big boys have billions, we have millions. They're gonna give us an epic beating. With the current JTTP, we re fighting over table scraps.

 

[pilotpayne]

I know. It's not gonna be easy for me either. But.....the writing is now on the wall esp with all the mergers complete. The big boys have billions, we have millions. They're gonna give us an epic beating. With the current JTTP, we re fighting over table scraps.

I am not sure I would call the Dca/Lga slots scraps.

 

[clickclickboom]

It will be scraps if delta has anything to do about it.. The frontal assult has begun..

Prepare to suck in a little sheepskin...


Hey Joe we flyin soon you better be a good boy or i will refer you for a dependability review..

 

[pilotpayne]

It will be scraps if delta has anything to do about it.. The frontal assult has begun..

Prepare to suck in a little sheepskin...


Hey Joe we flyin soon you better be a good boy or i will refer you for a dependability review..

Do your worst....I still don't know who you are.
Delta is a concern but they are starting a war on all fronts.
Jb in bos, ak in seattle, and trying to get slots at love.
They are def ready to play the game.

 

[N311HK]

Do your worst....I still don't know who you are.
Delta is a concern but they are starting a war on all fronts.
Jb in bos, ak in seattle, and trying to get slots at love.
They are def ready to play the game.

Ha! Ready to play the game Funny. Our MCO Crew Lodge will blow Delta and their refinery away. Oh wait. Our single flight service to PHX, SJC, ABQ, etc will show LOVE.

 

[pilotpayne]

Ha! Ready to play the game Funny. Our MCO Crew Lodge will blow Delta and their refinery away. Oh wait. Our single flight service to PHX, SJC, ABQ, etc will show LOVE.

I was talking about DELTA ie. agreeing with you.
Don't be so trigger happy.
Lets go over this again DELTA say it with me DELTA is ready to play the game.

 

[oldxfr8dog]

COO said on the call-in today that he expects 200 pilots to quit next year.

Earlier, he said that it's actually GOOD for JB to have pilots quit because they can be replaced by first-year pilots and their lower payscale.

Not kidding.

What an inspiring leader...

 

[N311HK]

He's not trying to inspire, he's trying to use fear. He basically said we re all expendable and the Blue is prepared and has been for what's going to happen in the next couple years.

 

[MikeSF340]

I was on the call and that's not exactly how it happened. A caller was worried about what the cost of attrition would be to JetBlue. Rob stated that from a pure numbers standpoint it is cheaper for people to leave and be replaced with guys on first year pay. This is not rocket science, everyone knows this. I am NOT a juicer or a big Rob supporter, but I do think this is being taken a little out of context.

 

[N311HK]

It's not rocket science. But he admitted and has said they are prepared for the attrition. Meaning we are more expandable than we think. And with him saying that he basically said the pilots have no leverage. The whole wait and see when everyone leaves mantra means nothing.

 

[pilotpayne]

He's not trying to inspire, he's trying to use fear. He basically said we re all expendable and the Blue is prepared and has been for what's going to happen in the next couple years.

You are using fear as well.
You are taking what RM said totally out on context to fit your argument.
I am not happy with the pea and have sent in a card and an updated card but please stop running around the internet saying things that are not true.

 

[N311HK]

It's not fear. He just said from a numbers standpoint you/I/we are expendable because lower cost labor can replace us. They are aware, have been aware, have a plan in place for the consequences of this PEA. What don't you understand. Their pieces are in place, ours or not. We have no leverage. You really have no idea what's ahead and the battle that is about to ensue with a union coming on property.

 

[pilotpayne]

It's not fear. He just said from a numbers standpoint you/I/we are expendable because lower cost labor can replace us. They are aware, have been aware, have a plan in place for the consequences of this PEA. What don't you understand. Their pieces are in place, ours or not. We have no leverage. You really have no idea what's ahead and the battle that is about to ensue with a union coming on property.

I am so glad you know of what I am and not aware of.
Look HK I came for a company the had good relations with thier pilots for the most part until they decided that it cost to much and decided to treat the pilots as the enemy not the solution (sound like anything you know?). I worked for ALPA as a Pro Standards member as well as chairman for over four years. So yes I am very aware of what is coming in faCT I have helped move that along not by sending one but two cards. So you can come down from your high horse and understand that some people have other opinions. The quote is out of context and you know it. But it is very true that replacing a senior guy with a junior guy saves money, until the point where you can't fly your schedules, you park planes, your training department falls apart, you blow your budget by putting out tons of rsa's and the company loses money. At that point jetblue will be looking for a new COO if that in fact happens.