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[Dizel8]

Found the quiz, sur you all have seen it, but if not, here it is. Not sure it is funny or sad.The Muzzie Quiz

A multiple-choice quiz that tests your memory of Islam's crimes against the United States of America.

"...One hundred percent of the successful terrorist attacks on commercial airlines for 20 years have been committed by Arabs. When there is a 100 percent chance of being hijacked by an Arab Muslim Extremist, it ceases to be a profile. It's called a 'description of the suspect...."

-- Ann Coulter


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#1 In 1968 who assassinated Robert Kennedy?
(a) Abbe Hoffman
(b) Tiny Tim
(c) Charles Manson
(d) Muslim male extremist between the age of 17 and 40

#2 In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:
(a)Olga Corbutt
(b)Sitting Bull
(c)Arnold Schwartzeneger
(d)Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

#3 In 1979,the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
(a) Lost Norwegians
(b) Elvis
(c) A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

#4 During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
(a) John Dillinger
(b) The King of Sweden
(c) The Boy Scouts
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

#5 In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
(a) A Domino's pizza delivery boy
(b) Pee Wee Herman
(c) Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

#6 In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked, and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by:
(a) The Smurfs
(b) Davy Jones
(c) The Little Mermaid
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

#7 In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy diver was murdered by:
(a) Captain Kid
(b) Charles Lindberg
(c) Mother Teresa
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

#8 In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
(a) Scooby Doo
(b) The Tooth Fairy
(c) Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid with dynamite left over from the
train job.
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

#9 In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
(a) Richard Simmons
(b) Grandma Moses
(c) Michael Jordan
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

#10 In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
(a) Mr. Rogers
(b) Hillary, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems
(c) The World Wrestling Federation to promote its next villain: "Mustapha
the Merciless"
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

#11 In 1999, The USS Cole was attacked and more than 15 American Sailors were killed by:
(a) David Letterman
(b) Shaquille O'Neil
(c) The Cookie Monster
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

#12 On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed and thousands of people were killed by:
(a) Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck, and Elmer Fudd
(b) The Supreme Court of Florida
(c) Mr. Bean
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

#13 In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
(a)Enron
(b)The Lutheran Church
(c)The NFL
(d)Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

#14 In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
(a) Bonny and Clyde
(b) Captain Kangaroo
(c) Billy Graham
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

#15 In 2001 Phillipene Missionaries Gracia and Martin Burnham were kidnapped, held for over a year, and Martin subsequently killed by:
(a) Mr. Rogers
(b) Scooby Doo & Shaggy
(c) Ronald Reagan
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

#16 On July 4th 2002, 2 Innocent Airline Passengers Were Killed, And 3 Others Injured at the ticket counter of El Al Airlines in the LAX International terminal by:
(a) Hulk Hogan after losing the WWF Title
(b) The cast of Monty Python
(c) Senator Lil' Tommy Daschle
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 41

#17 On July 31st 5 Americans were killed by a Palestinian HAMAS bomber in Jerusalem while attending school by:
(a) The US Congress
(b) The tooth fairy
(c) The easter bunny
(d) Muslim male extremits mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

#18 On October 12th 2002 more than 200 innocent civilians (including 200 Australians and 5 Americans) were brutally murdered by:
(a)Kermit the Frog & Miss Piggy
(b)Bert & Ernie from Sesame Street
(c)Charles Barkley
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 41


#19 On October 29th 2002 more than 700 Moscow theatre goers were taken hostage and threatened with execution by:
(a)Royal Canadian Mounted Police
(b)Laurie Dhue of Fox News Channel
(c)Phil Donahue, of MSNBC, pissed because Fox News is kicking his ass
(d)Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 41

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

Terror is not limited to race or faith

1. In 1881 the tsar of Russia was assassinated by:
a. a Russian terrorist
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1886 a bomb exploded at a demonstration in Chicago killing seven police
officers and demonstrators and injuring 67.
Who was responsible?
a. labor extremists
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3. Between 1889 and 1909 over 1700 African-Americans were lynched in the
United States by:
a. white Southern extremists
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. In 1894 the president of France was assassinated by:
a. a French terrorist
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1897 the premier of Spain was assassinated by:
a. a Spanish terrorist
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1898 the empress of Austria was assassinated by:
a. a Austrian terrorist
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7. In 1900 the king of Italy was assassinated by:
a. an Italian terrorist
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1901 the president of the United States was assassinated by:
a. an American terrorist
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1914 who assassinated Archduke Ferdinand of Austria-Hungar, starting the
First World War that resulted in at least 20 million deaths?
a. a Bosnian terrorist
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10. Who launched suicide attacks in explosive laden aircraft on American
warships in 1945, sinking 40 ships?
a. Japanese Kamikaze pilots
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11. Who blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946 killing 91 British
soldiers as well as British, Jewish, and Arab civilians (the most deadly
terrorist act that has ever taken place in Palestine or Israel to this day)?
a. Jewish terrorists
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. Who massacred 247 men, women and children in a Palestinian village in 1948
in order to cause panic among Palestinians and convince them to flee their
homes?
a. Jewish terrorists
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

13. Who set off a bomb in a Birmingham church in 1963 killing four young girls
at Sunday school
a. white Southern extremists
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

14. Between 1969 and 1994 who killed over 3000 soldiers, police and civilians
in bombings and assassinations in Northern Ireland with the support of groups in
the United States and Great Britain?
a. Catholic and Protestant terrorists
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

15. Who waged a campaign of bombings and killings in northern Spain since the
1970s?
a. Basque terrorists
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

16. In 1982 who massacred over 800 Palestinians in refugee camps, mostly women
and children?
a. Lebanese Christian militias with the support of the Israeli army in Lebanon
and its commander, Ariel Sharon (now prime minister of Israel)
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

17. Who set off a powerful car bomb at the American headquarters at Ramstein
airbase, Germany in 1981, injuring 14?
a. German terrorists
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

18. Since 1970 who killed thousands of police, judges, lawyers, clergy, and
other civilians in Colombia, Peru, Guatemala, and El Salvador?
a. drug cartels, leftist guerillas, right-wing paramilitary groups
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

19. Who set off bombs at abortion clinics killing 2 receptionists in 1994,
murdered 2 abortion clinic workers in 1995, and assassinated 3 doctors in 1993,
1994, and 1998?
a. American anti-abortion extremists
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

20. In 1995 who released nerve gas in the Tokyo subway killing 12 and injuring
more than 5000?
a. Japanese religious extremists
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

21. In 1995 who set off a bomb at the Federal building in Oklahoma City
killing 168 people?
a. an American terrorist
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

22. In the 1990s who sent letter bombs through the mail in the United States
killing 3 people?
a. an American terrorist named Theodore Kacynski
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

23. Who massacred 29 Muslim worshipers at a mosque in Hebron in 1994
a. a Jewish extremist
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

24. Who assassinated the prime minister of Israel, Yitzhak Rabin, in 1995?
a. a Jewish extremist
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

25. Who assassinated Mahatma Gandhi in 1948 and two prime ministers of India,
Indira Gandhi in 1984 and Rajiv Gandhi in 1991?
a. Hindu, Sikh, and Tamil extremists
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

26. In the last 17 months who has "unintentionally" killed over 800 Palestinian
policemen and innocent civilians in their efforts to combat terrorism. [over
twice as many innocent victims as the "Muslim male extremists mostly between the
ages of 17 and 40" have been killed in Israel and the occupied territories]
a. Israeli Defense Forces
b. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

I'll give you a hint. The correct answer to all these questions IS NOT "B"

 

[NYRANGERS]

Dizel 8

While that may be.........please......Ann Coulter.

The subject at hand is what JB did, not what terrorists did. Delta was going to be the test bed for CAPPS and the public responded........Delta did not go with the program....meanwhile JB offered up info on 5 million itineraries. I would expect class action lawsuits and continuing lawsuits from any of the 1.6 million pax that may have their identity stolen in the future (even if it is not related to this).

If you want to talk about terrorists start a new thread, no problem. However there is no defense for JB. They could have told their pax they were giving their info to a third party and let the chips fall. They chose to hide the truth, time will tell how big a mistake this was.




From jetBlue's privacy policy statement.........

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[jetblue320]

Re: Dizel 8

While that may be.........please......Ann Coulter.

The subject at hand is what JB did, not what terrorists did. Delta was going to be the test bed for CAPPS and the public responded........Delta did not go with the program....meanwhile JB offered up info on 5 million itineraries. I would expect class action lawsuits and continuing lawsuits from any of the 1.6 million pax that may have their identity stolen in the future (even if it is not related to this).

What JB did was wrong but only violated their own policy. Wow, talk about the JB boys being defensive! You are very quick to point out that Delta didn't make that mistake. What will the lawsuits be for? Identity theft? Yes, JB screwed up by trusting a contractor gathering info, but what was the damage? If we lose customer trust on a wide scale, that's not a good thing. But as far as damage to a persons identity, I hardly think it is much different than applying for a credit card and giving them your stats.

Like you Delta guys always say, time will tell.

 

[NYRANGERS]

Re: Re: Dizel 8

What will the lawsuits be for? Identity theft? Yes, JB screwed up by trusting a contractor gathering info, but what was the damage? If we lose customer trust on a wide scale, that's not a good thing. But as far as damage to a persons identity, I hardly think it is much different than applying for a credit card and giving them your stats.

Like you Delta guys always say, time will tell.

Breach of contract for starters.............stop defending a wrong. Hopefully this will pass without much incident. I believe if you (jetBlue) continue to make excuses the public backlash may be worse than you think. However.........time will tell



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[Dizel8]

NYRANGERS,

I am not sure, that Delta cancelled the program without any action. Yes, the program was halted, but I can almost assure you, that passenger information to setup the program was released.
Gathering empirical evidence so to speak.

I doubt the entire story of the Delta program will be known.

Not sure why you are attacking me, I said in my post, that I think jetBlue was wrong in doing this. Not much else I can say. I did not do it, I do not condone and quite frankly, it makes me wonder what they were thinking.

I must ask though, were your name released. If not, I think you are hammering the "Blues" people here pretty hard" for something they did not do. Oh, btw thats the jetBlues, not the St.Louis kind, which I think the Rangers would have problems with

Vlad Lenin,

Lots of bad stuff happens in the world on a daily basis, the list was somewhat in humour. I think we can pretty much make a list of atrocities and nail every single colour, race and creed. In this case, attacks against airplanes or the hijack of such, a certain demographic seems to figure rather prominently. Whereas your list has a rather varied list of people. Not sure who killed Olof Palme or the swedish foreign minister, but doubt it will be muslim extremist. In the latter case, it appears to be a swedish citizen, but from there to saying swedes are more inclined to kill, would be a far stretch indeed. Certainly not much evidence to support such a fact.

No intended to anger the swedes

 

[NYRANGERS]

Stick to the thread topic

From a more radical paper........






JetBlue Gave Defense Firm Files on Passengers.

Here's the PROOF that corporations are quite willing to abuse our right to privacy and are willing to do whatever the federal government tells them to do.

"WASHINGTON, Sept. 19 — JetBlue Airways acknowledged publicly today that it had provided a Pentagon contractor with information on more than one million of its passengers as part of a program to track down terrorists and other "high risk" passengers. That data, which was turned over in violation of the airline's own privacy policies, was then used to identify the passengers' Social Security numbers, financial histories and occupations.

JetBlue, a three-year-old discount airline, sent an e-mail message to passengers this week, conceding that it had made a mistake in providing the records last year to Torch Concepts, an Army contractor in Huntsville, Ala., for a research project on "airline passenger risk assessment."

'This was a mistake on our part and I know you and many of our customers feel betrayed by it,' said David Neeleman, JetBlue's chief executive, in an e-mail message that the airline, based in New York, said was sent to about 150 passengers who had written in so far to complain."

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/20/bus...

Mr. Neeleman is a JOKE. amazing how corrupt politicians and corporate execs behave in exactly the same manner-- i.e. blatantly abusing we the people then later saying "I'm sorry".

SURE they are.

The evidence just keeps piling up folks-- WE NO LONGER have any rights regarding personal information-- and that information will ultimately be used against us by a fascist type of government.


``As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information."Benjamin Disraeli

 

[NYRANGERS]

FOX news suit

Oddly enough when one of the FOX news reporters was reporting this story........she said she would be part of an upcomming lawsuit. She seemed pi$$ed, but then gave a little smile to sign off. I guess the good news is she buys tickets on jetBlue, the bad is she is suing.

 

[Eagleflip]

Sorry I'm joining this thread late, but I was busy with an unwelcome visitor named Isabel.


I won't defend the company's decision to release that passenger info--time will tell just how damaging that decision will be.

NYRangers--I do wonder just why you are so adamant that JetBlue is a villain, that David Neeleman is "a joke"? Do you honestly believe he willingly defrauded our customers?

I know the man and know him to be an honest broker.

Have you ever met him?

Better yet, what's your real beef with JetBlue?

 

[jaxgus]

Who Else Gives Personal Info????

I'm not making an excuse for the actions of jetBlue, but where does junk mail come from? Where do credit card companies get your personal information to send out all the credit card offers we get each week?

This is a big deal because 9/11 and changes to American life are scaring a few paranoid individuals with the motivation to voice their fears. Major companies have been SELLING our personal information for years and we don't hear privacy activists breaking major news stories regarding, for example GMAC, Bank of America, Master Card, etc. These companies gain all this information from the credit bureaus everyday who SELL this for profit, just look at your credit report. This same information is publically available to law enforcement, federal agencies and private citizens who are willing to pay for it.

No one, other than the integrity of jetBlue, was harmed by jetBlue's actions. Torch Concepts is the culpret that pieced the personal information from PUBLIC databases which potentially violated the privacy of jetBlue customers. Responsible journalists should write a headline stating the truth ("Torch Concepts Created a Database With Personal Information in It"). jetBlue violated our internal policy which I'm sure has undermined our customers faith in us.

When it comes to class action law suits, any person who participates in them is an opportunist. The lawyers and defendants, this FOX reporter, are trying to take advantage of a situation. They want money, not to fix the problem.

jetBlue will demonstrate our values and take care of our customers. If anyone questions our integrity ask yourself this question, "Why did we admit to making a mistake and why did we take RESPONSIBILITY for our actions?" Typical politicians and management make excuses and find scapegoats to problems they find themselves in. jetBlue has not acted in typical political fashion.

 

[NYRANGERS]

NYRangers--I do wonder just why you are so adamant that JetBlue is a villain, that David Neeleman is "a joke"? Do you honestly believe he willingly defrauded our customers?

I know the man and know him to be an honest broker.

Have you ever met him?

Better yet, what's your real beef with JetBlue?

I did not write any of the articles, as you can probably tell from my aweful writing ability. I'm just posting some of the interesting ones.

and no....I never interviewed or applied to jetBlue. As far as Neeleman goes......I don't think he even knew about this. If he did, then yes, I think he willingly defrauded your customers.

Sorry to hear about Isabel, I hope things work out for you,

fly safe ,

NYR

 

[NYRANGERS]

Re: Who Else Gives Personal Info????

question, "Why did we admit to making a mistake and why did we take RESPONSIBILITY for our actions?" Typical politicians and management make excuses and find scapegoats to problems they find themselves in. jetBlue has not acted in typical political fashion.

You admitted mistake, then your company made an excuse.......big difference from taking RESPONSIBILITY.

This looked like JB was going to come out of this in good fashion. Neeleman admitted mistake, said he would not do it again and apologised..................then he said BUT ............etc, etc...........there is no excuse.

Take care guys,

NYR

 

[NYRANGERS]

Re: Who Else Gives Personal Info????

I'm not making an excuse for the actions of jetBlue, but where does junk mail come from?

You say you are not making an excuse? Look at you subject heading......that is why when jetBlue says they won't give any personal info to a third party, people tend to believe it..........they don't want any more dman junk mail. And they don't want to be in some profile without their knowledge of participation.

Just read what happened and then read your privacy statement.

Go Rangers,

NYR

 

[Snoopy58]

Okay, Jet Blue fouled up. Looks like people will sue for breach of contract. I'm certainly no lawyer, but aren't judgements based on, among other things, damages suffered? So, excluding punative damages, what might a plaintiff base his damages on? What, of measurable value, has he lost? The credit report was always available to the commercial world, and (other than apparently one guy whose name & SSN were shown in the contractor's presentation) didn't get disseminated beyond the contractor that bought it.

I agree the a mistake was made (yeah, agreeing with the JB CEO -- going out a real limb there, NOT), but I'm curious what basis the plaintiffs will have to argue that they were injured. JB didn't follow their privacy policy, yes, but the air travel that was purchased was delivered exactly as promised, and at the end of the day, nobody has lost their identity or is going to get any more junk mail tomorrow than they would have otherwise.

Philosophical question, not a "Jet Blue good / Jet Blue bad" sort of thing.

 

[NYRANGERS]

I don' think an individual could get more than their money back for breach of contract. That said, if you take 5 million itineraries in a class action lawsuit......around $200-$500 dollars a trip it adds up to well over $1 Billion. I have no idea if this would happen, nor do I hope it does...however if it were to happen, I don't know how jetBlue could give up it's revenue for a whole year. This is why I think lame excuses should be avoided. Everyone knows jetBlue was doing a fantastic job, Neeleman needs to find a way to stave off a class action suit.