Jet Blue open house

[IrishjbPilot]

JBPA....what kind of ho's? would they be napp.......? Ok, ill leave it at that.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

and I guess it makes you feel better to point that out on a public forum?? Maybe you can use that info about your uncle to your advantage the next time you refuse to help get clean the plane during a turn?

" Huge Disconnect " with your posts? No I dont think so it is more than obvious to me that you are a true piece of work..

I dont think you "objectively " represent anything about JB other than your unrelenting hatred of "your" current situation. Your mid 1200's here yet your upgrade is going to take another 5 years?

#950 or so just upgraded to bus capt.. lets say that puts about 300 guys between you..

even if we average only 10 upgrades per month with no account for attrition or resignations your at 30 months or 2.5 years

Please anybody that is considering JB please put the Chef on your ignore list

What about my OPINION of upgrades did you not understand? I even qualified my statement in many ways:

The reserve improvements "could go either way", meaning they could help or hurt upgrade times. Most captains I talk to think it won't matter much. Reserve is still reserve, no matter what Flica improvements come down the pike. And reserve sucks, no matter where you work.

My bus captain projection is realistic, depending upon the fence and deliveries/sales, which once again I mentioned in my post. You think we are gonna upgrade 120 a month this year? We haven't done that since I have been here, so that's the info on which I am basing my opinion. 7-8 captains per airplane equals 70-80 a year with a delivery schedule of 10 airbii a year.

I am low 1200s and yes the last CA bid went to 932, but there are quite a few in front of him that have bypassed, not to mention those at FLL, BOS and LGB that are waiting to pounce as well. Again, I think my opinion is not that far off. If we assume 280 numbers for me to go at 70 upgrades a year, that's 4 years (notwithstanding the fence, attrition, the dynamics of opening a MCO base in January, etc). How can I be more clear on this point? Besides, check Dogwood's post in that other JB thread. He and I share the same opinion. I don't think I am being as original as you think I am. And I wasn't complaining either. Just relating my personal upgrade scenario for any future jb interviewees.

Back to you purse slap: "unrelenting hatred"? What? Yeah, I am certainly hating flying with another cool captain and enjoying my Friday night in Burbank. Oh and I helped clean the cabin again, just like I always do, but I have to admit that's a special kind of purse slap only to be found at jb. Beware the cabin cleaning nazis.

As for my uncle, no I did not "use" that occurrence for my own personal gain. I was being serious about it. I don't take that lightly and it makes no difference if this forum is public or not. Some things just aren't tolerable. You could try and use a little of that "Caring" value we have here at jb and let it be.

For all you fellas that keep PM-ing me on the real scoop at jb, keep on truckin'. I will continue to answer you as objectively as I can.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Cooge I have been called worse!! My point was that Chef states he will take first available upgrade and if reserve is running 17 months or longer he will be the first one to log onto this site and say something stupid like"

" Go back and look at my posts I used to be a 100% jetblue juice guy but since they have junior assigned me to 2 years of reserve yada yada.........

If I take the first available upgrade I will do it with the knowledge that reserve could be a very long time, and my post was fairly straightforward in that regard. My point was to define current CA reserve times for those on the outside, which are definitely fluid and a function of upgrades and timing. Again you are slinging mud based on what? Your opinion of what I will say after I upgrade? Okay, I'll accept that. It's your opinion and you certainly are allowed to express it.

After a long transcon today though, I think I may bypass a long while. Someday being a senior FO especially with my good reserve gig and my dr wife? Maybe it ain't worth giving up that schedule after all. Tough call to pass up the PIC. Either way, if my prediction on upgrade becomes reality, I won't have to worry about upgrading (to the left seat of the bus) for a very long time.

 

[puttin4doh]

Can anyone post the eflyer on here, or a link to get more info on the open house? Much appreciated...

Puttin

 

[Captzaahlie]

Can anyone post the eflyer on here, or a link to get more info on the open house? Much appreciated...

Puttin

AHHHHHHH, Try post number 2 in this very thread............

Ok, that might have been a little standoffish of me so here is the link to make

it easy for you: http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=96720

Kids these days....... !

Good luck and see you there Puttin,
Capt. Z

 

[ualdriver]

ualdriver wrote:


That's great... but don't you still pay a monthly premium out of your paycheck? If you do, what I meant by free medical was that back in "the day" we didn't even have to pay a penny even pre-tax out of our check. It was one of the "benefits"... free medical insurance. Then a copay for visits and drugs.

Tail

No monthly premium. Just the 15 dollar copay to go to the doctor or 50 bucks for the ER.

One of the VERY FEW good things in our cerrent contract.

 

[Captzaahlie]

No monthly premium. Just the 15 dollar copay to go to the doctor or 50 bucks for the ER.

One of the VERY FEW good things in our cerrent contract.

I'm not trying to be an A$$ but what does this have to do with the "cerrent"
(is that how the word is spelled these days? (cee abuv)) thread?

I hope you can take the small joke,if not have a great weekend anyway.......

 

[ualdriver]

I'm not trying to be an A$$ but what does this have to do with the "cerrent"
(is that how the word is spelled these days? (cee abuv)) thread?

I hope you can take the small joke,if not have a great weekend anyway.......

I'm working, so unfortunately it's not the best of weekends. And I don't use grammar or spell checks when I type on internet forums, hence the error.

Someone previously misrepresented UA medical costs in a post back there somewhere. That's what it has to do with this thread.

 

[Captzaahlie]

I'm working, so unfortunately it's not the best of weekends. And I don't use grammar or spell checks when I type on internet forums, hence the error.

Someone previously misrepresented UA medical costs in a post back there somewhere. That's what it has to do with this thread.

Sorry.....

"My bad" as Imus would say, or I guess not say now.

Take care regardless,

Capt. Z

 

[Roger Murdoch]

I can't make the April 19th open house. I'm curious if anyone knows of the next one in the works, if there is one.
Thanks.

 

[Lake Alice]

I can't make the April 19th open house. I'm curious if anyone knows of the next one in the works, if there is one.
Thanks.

We're pretty short pilots and from my understanding we are getting a lot of good applicants from these open houses. I think you can figure on one a month for a little while. There are rumors floating around we may pause hiring in July though.

 

[Flyer74]

I can't make the April 19th open house. I'm curious if anyone knows of the next one in the works, if there is one.
______________________________________________________________

May 12th.

 

[pilot1704]

Honestly , Who really cares what IMUS says or wants to say!

I don't think many of us really cares, what IMUS used to say or still wants to say!

Let's talk about JetBlue!

 

[dudemize]

I just interviewed last week and the word that was given is that the long call will be 14 hours and the short call will stay at 2....FWIW.

Reserve is getting fixed... there will be long and short call and bidding for check in and check out times as well. But many forget that reserve has historically sucked at any carrier. Everyone will have long and short call as part of their month... non seniority based. The factual rumor says that half of your reserve days will be long call and half short call. But based on a 4 day minimum. If you have 4 or more days on reserve then the first half will be long call and the second half short call. Then seniority based bidding for check in and check out times. If you have less than 4 days on reserve then it's all short call. This will make reserve much better and I would even consider bidding for reserve some months to be home more...

Even w/ the good changes coming I'm sure Lake Alice will find some angle to whine about it......

Tail

 

[motch]

I live in NYC (20 mins from JFK!) and will have no problem sitting short call reserve forever!

Looking forward to Jun/July when I can reapply... hope they are still hiring!

Always
Motch

 

[Lake Alice]

Ask the Airways guys if their short/long call system ever worked the way it should have. With our scheduling department... well we can hope.

 

[SNOWBUM]

........notwithstanding ...... the dynamics of opening a MCO base in January,


when did you hear that? another east coast base? and the second in FL?

 

[Bavarian Chef]

I can't make the April 19th open house. I'm curious if anyone knows of the next one in the works, if there is one.
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May 12th.

Fedex your pee to the training center in MCO and I think you are in.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

........notwithstanding ...... the dynamics of opening a MCO base in January,


when did you hear that? another east coast base? and the second in FL?

Yep, MCO coming end of this year, early next. A very reliable rumor this time. NOW ... whether it's a 320 or 190 base ... that is another story.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Ask the Airways guys if their short/long call system ever worked the way it should have. With our scheduling department... well we can hope.

Every US Airways dude in my class has nothing but bad things to say about a long call / short call system. WTF? I thought we were getting an improvement.

 

[Caveman]

Every US Airways dude in my class has nothing but bad things to say about a long call / short call system. WTF? I thought we were getting an improvement.

BC,

Take it with a grain of salt and consider the source. They're furloughed Airways. They've been getting the crappy end of the stick for years. They usually have nothing but bad things to say about everything. They're not bad people, but you can only beat a dog for so long before they become mean.

Most pilot groups have to negotiate to get a long call reserve option. Have you ever heard of any group voluntarily giving it back? Choices are always good. Long call will work for some of us and for some it won't. I hope we get a long call/short call option.

 

[ExAF]

Some Info

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I had an interesting jump seater over the weekend. He was a NWA furloughee that had just left Jet Blue to return to NWA after one year at Blue. When asked why, he said that long story short, the Bus Captains had it pretty good at Blue but all of the FOs and the 190 guys were miserable. He said as bad as it was at NWA now, he couldn't see staying around JB any longer. FOs are leaving in droves and hiring is working hard to keep up with the hemorrhaging. He said from a customer standpoint, it was a great product, but from an employee standpoint, it sucks. Of course I asked him if he really did clean the cabin and he said, "he would help out if he had time and it really wasn't that big of a deal." There was more to the conversation that I don't remember the details of, but he summed it up by saying that the "blue Kool-Aid" wore off after a couple of months on the line. Like I said, I don't have a dog in this fight and have only read this thread for entertainment, but I find it disturbing that someone would actually leave there to return to the cesspool that is NWA right now.

 

[coogebeachhotel]

BC,

Take it with a grain of salt and consider the source. They're furloughed Airways. They've been getting the crappy end of the stick for years. They usually have nothing but bad things to say about everything. They're not bad people, but you can only beat a dog for so long before they become mean.

Most pilot groups have to negotiate to get a long call reserve option. Have you ever heard of any group voluntarily giving it back? Choices are always good. Long call will work for some of us and for some it won't. I hope we get a long call/short call option.

Long call system sucks I will add. Never has it worked in the three airlines I have been employed

 

[Dogwood]

Ask the Airways guys if their short/long call system ever worked the way it should have. With our scheduling department... well we can hope.

I thought the long / med / short call at Airways worked quite well. A few issues involved when and who would be transitioned to med or short call, but it wasn't that much of a problem. It sure beat 100% 1 1/2 hr short call.

Long call was basically a day off, but you kept in the back of your mind you might be transitioned any time, in which case you had about 10-12 hours to be in position.

Never was a probelm.

 

[Captzaahlie]

Fedex your pee to the training center in MCO and I think you are in.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

I think I'll be able to produce more than 3 ounces, can I still go through security?

 

[puttin4doh]

AHHHHHHH, Try post number 2 in this very thread............

Ok, that might have been a little standoffish of me so here is the link to make

it easy for you: http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=96720

Kids these days....... !

Good luck and see you there Puttin,
Capt. Z

Well Cappy, I appreciate your confindence in my reading abilities, but perhaps I have been trying to access that e-flyer without any luck. I've made repeated attempts at the other forums, and can't get to the open house info. So, my request was not for a reposting of the same crap, but a textual posting of the Thursday's details. You were amazingly helpful....

 

[Captzaahlie]

Well Cappy, I appreciate your confindence in my reading abilities, but perhaps I have been trying to access that e-flyer without any luck. I've made repeated attempts at the other forums, and can't get to the open house info. So, my request was not for a reposting of the same crap, but a textual posting of the Thursday's details. You were amazingly helpful....

I'm not sure which if any of that was sarcasim so sorry for the playfull jab.

Here is a cut and past if the link didn't work for you:

Hello Blue Pilots:

Please pass the word that we are hosting a Pilot Open House on Thursday, April 19 at the Orlando Support Campus from 1000 a.m. to 2p.m. Attached is an eflyer for you to send to competitive candidates interested in joining the JetBlue Team. Our previous events have been extremely successful as you continue to invite Pilots that emulate our values and reflect the same high level of professionalism as you.

The Open House is a great opportunity for candidates to get a good taste of our culture. During their visit we showcase the campus with tours conducted by the Flt Ops Training Team. The Flt Ops and Training Leadership Team gather candidates in the Auditorium for an overview of the "JetBlue Pilot Job" and solicit questions while providing candid answers. Candidates also meet with a Pilot Recruiter to review their resume and clarify questions or concerns.

Thank you for helping us promote this event and for your contribution in growing our culture!

Verna Kay
Director, Pilot Recruitment


There is a Jet blue shuttle bus operating from outside the jb bagage claim area that will run you over to the training area...... pm me if you need more details!

Capt. Z

 

[Lake Alice]

I thought the long / med / short call at Airways worked quite well. A few issues involved when and who would be transitioned to med or short call, but it wasn't that much of a problem. It sure beat 100% 1 1/2 hr short call.

Long call was basically a day off, but you kept in the back of your mind you might be transitioned any time, in which case you had about 10-12 hours to be in position.

Never was a probelm.

I question the feasibility of a long call/short call reserve system with us because of the people working it. The other day I flew with a reserve captain who, on his last day of 6, had 30 minutes remaining and called crew scheduling to release him. They would not release him. I think the concept would be great, senior guys bid it and that saves the company money. There are so many reasons for why it can work and primarily one reason for why it won't.

 

[Guam360]

Hey, about hiring- I interviewed there in 2000, no offer.
Went to an Open House a few months ago, no interview invitation.
Am told I interview well, but I do not have degree(working on it-ex-military)
Plenty of 121 PIC
Should I attend this month and try to ask a screener to give me an explanation, or tell me to look elsewhere....

Anything is better than this nwa regional position..... Thanks!

Go and ask, I was hired with only an AS degree.

ps, I'll be there for anyone that I recognize/know, will help them along, ie, introduce them to VK, etc.

 

[WateryGrave]

I just got hired without any degree. From what I can tell seems like they focus on the overall package and the personality, that or I slipped through the cracks. Who knows???