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[wacoflyr]

I guess usually jokes are funny, that is how they get recognized as jokes.

Hats on pilots are funny. You don't think hats are funny? I do. But hey, start wearing one, sport. It will look good on you. You'll rock in a hat. Post a picture. Maybe you can start a trend. (That was a joke)

 

[sshrae]

Hats on pilots are funny. You don't think hats are funny? I do. But hey, start wearing one, sport. It will look good on you. You'll rock in a hat. Post a picture. Maybe you can start a trend. (That was a joke)

Gigadee gigadee. Good work quagmier.

 

[ArtVandalay]

It sounds like maybe Flexjet is setting the trend now amongst the fractionals. Welcome to 6-4 schedules and crappy food NJ folks. It's only a matter of time before you are at the holiday inn in TEB! Welcome to the bottom feeders!!! Maybe Fred can give Sokol some tips on how to slice and dice but make it look nice...

 

[LAZYB]

Since you guys seem to be shifting to austerity mode, the Holiday Inn Hashbrouck Heights has an $85 Flexjet rate. If you guys want I could email the details to your travel department. It's actually a pretty nice place for a hotel that was built when Nixon was president. It's right off Route 17, just across from TEB and next to McDonald's and Dunk'n Donuts, which is good, because the coffee in the restaurant there tastes like hot water that somebody dropped a brown crayon into. Also, the place is periodically overrun with German tourists who arrive in gigantic buses and stand around in queer jeans clogging up the check-in area and the elevator. Also the fire alarm sometimes goes off in the middle of the night, but ever since the completion of an ambitious restoration project that succeeded in making the place look only slightly less cheesy than it used to the fire alarms don't seem to go off quite so often. Also there's a bar there that serves chicken fingers that like every other person I know has gotten sick eating and a comedy club called "Bananas" that's about as New Jersey as it gets, and sometimes they rent the conference rooms out for huge-ass Mexican weddings and quincineras, and there's always lots of really hot latina jailbait walking around.

Like I said, let me know if you're interested.

You're missing out on the Holiday Inn @ Hasbrouck Heights.

View of McDonalds...

Close by the Dunkin Donut, a pathway to Hindu empowerment and enlightenment...

Near said airport, TEB, a benefit not fully appreciated...

Yet still within walking distance of the Bendix Diner.

Not as dingy as it could be. Rooms are better illuminated than a Persian opium den. Carefully scented to infuse one with the sense of being on a slave galley in August, which is delicately balanced with a Hazmat over spray, suggesting hygienic overkill or maybe just a hint of road kill.

Fellow "guests" add to the ambiance and a true sense of security & contentment. Many are armed to the teeth, seasoned warriors, with long forged contacts with the local police, and a zest for life, or 10-20 (out in 8 for good behavior).

The eclectic food offered by the in-house purveyor of all that is good, promotes the "that which does not kill you, makes you stronger" spirit.

But hey, I get free internet and points... :beer:

 

[wolfpackpilot]

Close by the Dunkin Donut, Near said airport, TEB, a benefit not fully appreciated...

You speak the truth. My first trip to TEB was in 1987. It hasn't changed that much... :laugh:

The glamor of jet setting quickly fades with 30min van rides to the hotel.

 

[jonjuan]

You speak the truth. My first trip to TEB was in 1987. It hasn't changed that much... :laugh:

The glamor of jet setting quickly fades with 30min van rides to the hotel.

You don't really believe "jet setting" applies to to you, do you? Poor guy......

 

[wolfpackpilot]

You don't really believe "jet setting" applies to to you, do you?

WHAT!?!?! Heck ya! I'm a jet-god extraordinaire... ahhahaahaha....

But seriously, I know my place on the bus, but the kids day dreaming about that Gulfstream I fly, they're seeing that jet setting life... I know I was back in 1987.

All I care about now is coming home and seeing my beautiful wife and my two golden retrievers.

 

[HiSpeedFlyer]

Grizz,

I doubt many pilots who don't agree NJASAP's position and their legion of followers will ever post on the union boards.

Not everyone is comfortable with those forums.... Hence the reason you've seen maybe 10 different I side guys ever say a word. The warm welcome fizzled out rather quickly.


Just my .02

I still love ya man! Big ol' chest bump right at 'cha! :nuts:

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Bead Window!


:laugh:

You didn't put a number after it so he knows what kind of information he divulged.

 

[gunfyter]

You didn't put a number after it so he knows what kind of information he divulged.

If I did that everyone else would know!

 

[gret]

For Christ's sake...is this all about the move to outsource things so that they don't have to do a recall under the union contract?

Go get some bollocks!

 

[jetwash]

You're missing out on the Holiday Inn @ Hasbrouck Heights.

View of McDonalds...

Close by the Dunkin Donut, a pathway to Hindu empowerment and enlightenment...

Near said airport, TEB, a benefit not fully appreciated...

Yet still within walking distance of the Bendix Diner.

Not as dingy as it could be. Rooms are better illuminated than a Persian opium den. Carefully scented to infuse one with the sense of being on a slave galley in August, which is delicately balanced with a Hazmat over spray, suggesting hygienic overkill or maybe just a hint of road kill.

Fellow "guests" add to the ambiance and a true sense of security & contentment. Many are armed to the teeth, seasoned warriors, with long forged contacts with the local police, and a zest for life, or 10-20 (out in 8 for good behavior).

The eclectic food offered by the in-house purveyor of all that is good, promotes the "that which does not kill you, makes you stronger" spirit.

But hey, I get free internet and points... :beer:

That Holiday Inn was the preferred hotel for Flight Options for while. After a shooting in the parking lot and then the constant fatigue calls by the crews that stayed there, the hotel was quickly changed. The company quickly figured that the cost of chartering trips was more then the $30 per night they saved.

 

[hockeypilot44]

I don't work for Netjets, but it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what the letter said. There will be more furloughs as the company is going to outsource as much flying as legally possible. If you are furloughed, you might not get recalled for years (think 10 years plus).

I have come to this conclusion after reading more than one message board. I have put bits and pieces together.

 

[Pervis]

Hockey, way off. There are contractual sell off limits of 11 days per quarter, whether it's one charter or a hundred doesn't matter. Any excess results in recalls. We will not discuss any concessions regarding scope-period. If we need more sell offs, we are simply short of planes and pilots.

As much as I work lately, there is no way we could deliver our product with more furloughs. I flew almost 500 hrs last year. Recalls are still a ways off though, as new aircraft are replacements at this point, and I don't see management manning more than contractual requirements at this point. Real growth is still two years away. It takes time to acquire new jets, even with BH support.

 

[hockeypilot44]

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Hockey, way off. There are contractual sell off limits of 11 days per quarter, whether it's one charter or a hundred doesn't matter. Any excess results in recalls. We will not discuss any concessions regarding scope-period. If we need more sell offs, we are simply short of planes and pilots.

As much as I work lately, there is no way we could deliver our product with more furloughs. I flew almost 500 hrs last year. Recalls are still a ways off though, as new aircraft are replacements at this point, and I don't see management manning more than contractual requirements at this point. Real growth is still two years away. It takes time to acquire new jets, even with BH support.

More furloughs are coming whether you want to believe it or not. Hopefully you are senior enough to not be affected. If you are really junior, I would start applying to other places now.

 

[Pervis]

My response is simply pointing out you are way off in your interpretation of recent events. You may well be right about furloughs, in spite of company and union leadership disagreeing with your assessment. It won't be because we're fat on pilots though. Rather an attempt to make one particular individual look even more frugal and business savy as the big decision looms on replacing Buffett. The question is how big a negative impact this will have on our owners, and how long will it last.

 

[gunfyter]

I don't work for Netjets, but it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what the letter said. There will be more furloughs as the company is going to outsource as much flying as legally possible. If you are furloughed, you might not get recalled for years (think 10 years plus).

I have come to this conclusion after reading more than one message board. I have put bits and pieces together.

The problem with this theory is the more outsourcing ... the more pilots have to be recalled, not furloughed, per the CBA.

Keep theorizing.

 

[jonjuan]

As much as I work lately, there is no way we could deliver our product with more furloughs. I flew almost 500 hrs last year. Recalls are still a ways off though, as new aircraft are replacements at this point, and I don't see management manning more than contractual requirements at this point. Real growth is still two years away. It takes time to acquire new jets, even with BH support.

The problem with your theory is that you assume your owner base will remain constant or even grow. Aircraft "replacements" will only happen if current and new owners actually buy them. The fractional space is very quickly becoming commoditized, meaning owners are now more likely to buy based on price than ever before. The netjet pricing is still 15-20% more than any other competitive fractional company operating the same product, some of which are significantly subsidized by "company friendly" pilot salaries and benefits.
I think I know what i'm talking about here. I called the global order a few weeks ago.

 

[wacoflyr]

Also, he's got the best looking avatar.

 

[rajflyboy]

and some thought a large order of EMB 145's RJ's were coming to town. You were fooled. This isn't happening.