Incoming!

[squonk]

and some thought a large order of EMB 145's RJ's were coming to town. You were fooled. This isn't happening.

Count me as one fooled...

All the tea leaves were pointing in that direction (if you discount the Global at CMH a couple months ago!) and I'd have bet the farm they would have gone that way.

 

[Club ORD FO]

How could Netjets suddenly be a bad place to work? You just placed the largest private jet order in history?

So which is it, sky falling or kicking ass and taking names?

 

[RJ Bum]

How could Netjets suddenly be a bad place to work? You just placed the largest private jet order in history?

So which is it, sky falling or kicking ass and taking names?

No one that has 482 on the street is kicking ass and taking names...

 

[johnsonrod]

No one that has 482 on the street is kicking ass and taking names...

What percentage of the 482 have found other flying-related jobs? How many have found airline-related positions (e.g., JB, VA, Delta, Atlas, foreign, etc.)? Any estimates?

I realize the hiring market still sucks and many are probably still looking.

 

[Club ORD FO]

Well surely this order will lead to recalls eventually right? Who is going to fly them?

 

[gunfyter]

How could Netjets suddenly be a bad place to work?

It didn't. Its no different than it was before.... Unions and managements sometimes have points of disagreement.

Recalls? As far as we know these planes will replace fleets that get retired. Orders don't = recalls. SALES do!

 

[NachoMamma]

Ahem...

Count me as one fooled...

All the tea leaves were pointing in that direction (if you discount the Global at CMH a couple months ago!) and I'd have bet the farm they would have gone that way.

The same is true of larger Embraer products. Dead as a door nail.

Ah yes, one thing we can all count on is NJA PICs having the real inside scoop.

imacdog: apology accepted

 

[imacdog]

Hopw about this whopper: "NJA will not furlough". Spoken by many PICs. A broken clock is right twice a day, ya know.

 

[Hogprint]

I wouldn't discount NJA PIC views out of hand. They are privy to to certain info...how they interpret that info is another matter!

 

[G200_PILOT]

Well surely this order will lead to recalls eventually right? Who is going to fly them?

Any order you see now and in the future are mere replacement airplanes to the aging fleet we have. Every seat in those new airplanes will be filled by pilots being displaced from aircraft in fleet disposal or from open bids to all pilots presently on the seniority list. It will be nothing but a shuffle game for the next 5 years.

 

[johnsonrod]

Doesn't Netjets have an existing order for 20-30 Gulfstream (450s and 550s)? How will the Global order impact that existing order and the resulting fleet mix?

 

[wolfpackpilot]

Doesn't Netjets have an existing order for 20-30 Gulfstream (450s and 550s)?

Excellent question. I would like to know myself. I was under the impression they canceled all future orders.

But I was also under the impression people liked me... I was wrong.

 

[dudemize]

Excellent question. I would like to know myself. I was under the impression they canceled all future orders.

But I was also under the impression people liked me... I was wrong.

I'm pretty sure those aircraft are still on the books. I don't think NJA is getting out of the Gulfstream business completely.

 

[cush]

Grizz,

I doubt many pilots who don't agree NJASAP's position and their legion of followers will ever post on the union boards.

Not everyone is comfortable with those forums.... Hence the reason you've seen maybe 10 different I side guys ever say a word. The warm welcome fizzled out rather quickly.


Just my .02

As a percentage...that's about the same number of NJA originals that ever say a word. You have to remember there about 30 or fewer that do the vast majority of the posting on there. Some people just HAVE to be heard...on EVERY issue or topic!

 

[rajflyboy]

Hopw about this whopper: "NJA will not furlough". Spoken by many PICs. A broken clock is right twice a day, ya know.

As busy as Netjets is right now they cannot furlough anyone.

 

[fischman]

Excellent question. I would like to know myself. I was under the impression they canceled all future orders.

But I was also under the impression people liked me... I was wrong.

Some people like you. I think most of them are democrats though...

 

[gunfyter]

Some people like you. I think most of them are democrats though...

Yeah ... but only the awesome ones. :laugh:

 

[gret]

Yeah ... but only the awesome ones. :laugh:

You guys are jack asses...and nobody thinks it is funny anymore. How long have you numbnuts been doing this...two years...it was novel at first...but you have worn this thing out!

 

[G4dude]

As busy as Netjets is right now they cannot furlough anyone.

You are right about that! We are the busiest I have seen us in the more than 10 years I have been at NetJets. Hopefully this is good news for the pilots we laid off!

 

[Jack Campbell]

You are right about that! We are the busiest I have seen us in the more than 10 years I have been at NetJets. Hopefully this is good news for the pilots we laid off!

Its nice that you hope good news for the furloughees. The reality is that there is no indication NJ will be growing in the forseeable future and beyond. Translation: no one is expecting recalls for many years. The only thing that will create any slots for us will be attrition.