Im Ready, UNION AT FLEX

[dime line]

Very sad and very true.

He also said no more bonus and a cut in the 401k match.

Welcome to the KR party!

 

[jonjuan]

He said the union would be bad.

....for his net worth....

 

[jonjuan]

He's printing $$$$$$$$$

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...5-01-22/sentient-jet-sales-revenues-soar-2014

 

[Flex605]

Our bonus that averaged $15,000 for captains and $7500 for first officers at flex is gone.
The reason is fuel is at a record low, flying hours are up . The end result give them a $800 bonus after taxes . This move will put over $5 million In kens pocket .
Unionize and stop the bleeding or to continue bleeding . RH lied to us and said nothing would change in terms of the metrics. Well everything changed .
One lie after another . If you make a list of all that's gone and the lies it truly is Mind boggling .

 

[shanes123]

He is the best union steward you guys can have? He wants to give us Flops guys a raise but the union won't let him..He wants to buy more companies and bring back all the furloughed pilots but the union said no.

 

[slowtation capt]

Our bonus that averaged $15,000 for captains and $7500 for first officers at flex is gone.

That's a hit, that sucks.

 

[shanes123]

KR is just using that money to Fund the new uniforms you guys are getting so it's pretty much a wash.

 

[chaching]

Our bonus that averaged $15,000 for captains and $7500 for first officers at flex is gone.
The reason is fuel is at a record low, flying hours are up . The end result give them a $800 bonus after taxes . This move will put over $5 million In kens pocket .
Unionize and stop the bleeding or to continue bleeding . RH lied to us and said nothing would change in terms of the metrics. Well everything changed .
One lie after another . If you make a list of all that's gone and the lies it truly is Mind boggling .

Yea, its time we wake up and realize that Bombardier is but a distant memory and we have a new reality to live with and to be perfectly honest I don't really like what I see so far.

As far as the Union, the Teamsters would not be my 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice but I don't see any other option at this time. Shame on us all if we continue to sit idle and accept whatever comes down the pipe without so much as a whisper out of our collective pilot group at this once very fine company.

After what I've seen so far I'll take the Teamsters and a smidgen of control vs having no control whatsoever...

 

[el raton]

Can someone outline KR's plans to screw Flex pilots via integration if we organize?

 

[slowtation capt]

Can someone outline KR's plans to screw Flex pilots via integration if we organize?

Can't outline his plan because he can't. It would have to be done fair and equitable.

 

[shanes123]

Well in all sincerity I hope this will be the final straw that wakes everyone up. Let's all ban together and make this a good company where everyone can at least be on a equal playing field The union will not fix everything but it will keep things fair for the most part. It's better then the alternative. No more kiss your bonus away. Cause it will be contractualy protected

 

[doh]

What bonus? It's gone now.

 

[Dirty Squirrel]

What bonus? It's gone now.

Doh... It's not gone. According to them, the bonus will be specific to the group and not a blanket bonus. Now, how much that will be is yet to be said.

 

[doh]

Whatever

 

[BlueNose]

Doh... It's not gone. According to them, the bonus will be specific to the group and not a blanket bonus. Now, how much that will be is yet to be said.

Kenn's never really believed in employee bonuses, he's stated that over the years (outside of his inner circle, that is). You could ask the FO mechs and mx controllers about the 'bonus' program they had back in the day, and how much money they saw from that one. And of course the 'profit sharing' in the current pilot contract, which is designed never to pay a dime. Hope I'm wrong, but I wouldn't plan that money into next year's family vacation budget if I were at Flex. Sorry for your loss.

 

[shanes123]

Its just one of those..oooppppss you guys almost made it..Work twice as hard and better luck next year

 

[BlueNose]

Its just one of those..oooppppss you guys almost made it..Work twice as hard and better luck next year

That's what history would suggest. There's an old adage in money and investing, 'The four most dangerous words in investing are, this time it's different.' Seems to be good advice, too, after a DAC acquisition, no matter how much you might hope otherwise.

 

[slowtation capt]

Doh... It's not gone. According to them, the bonus will be specific to the group and not a blanket bonus. Now, how much that will be is yet to be said.

And that's acceptable to you. To take something away that everyone had only to give to a select few. Those that fly tired, sick or broken airplanes. When 1 group gets it and another doesn't all because 1 airplane might be in mx more than the others. How are guys gonna feel about it then.

 

[B314Clipper]

It used to be a COMPANY WIDE bonus at FJ. Not just the pilots, but MX, office staff, etc.
I'm still amazed there isn't more outrage about this. If he has taken away the 2014 bonus after being promised all year. If this is true, they have taken $7-10 thousand from each pilot.

 

[shanes123]

Theres a reason FLOPS has a union and it appears the FJ guys are starting to see why. The biggest Union advocate at FLOPS has always been this management not the pilots.