Im Ready, UNION AT FLEX

[OldCrow]

Sorry It wasn't meant in a derogatory way

Very good Sir. I hope we can help the Flex Pilots decipher the complicated, and hazardous, "CGF1 arrival"....who would have thought they would have one so soon!?!
I can only hope that one of our Stewards can be there with them.

 

[Flex605]

first guy shot man down I repeat man down

 

[johnnyride24]

They will both be suing.

Fortunately one has some serious Dirt on one of our CP and DO....


This is going to be fun...

Its like the old JC days


BOYS SEND IN YOUR CARDS

 

[Brit]

http://www.gillespiesanford.com/hal-k-gillespie.html

 

[warlord19]

I heard they were both shot at dawn! Any truth to this?

 

[cougar12]

The word on the 1108 board is they are not fired as of yet waiting on the decision to comeback from management. KR is a micro manager and he will make the final decision. I am sure he was not in the meeting(CGF-1 arrival).

 

[cougar12]

If you are not on the 1108 VUH join up and stay informed and ask questions. You don't have to be pro union or pro teamsters. Flex brother and sisters, most of us FO pilots want to work with you to protect both our careers we no how fast things can change.
For years we were flying Ken around and he was telling crews Options is looking at getting gulfstreams for international work and selling the hawkers off to start a new mid size or super mid size fleet like the legacy 450/500. Why? Because that's what the customers want. Then one day he buys Flex Jet and all those airplanes are shifted over to Flex and if anyone wants to fly them they have to back stab there fellow pilots and destroy their QOL. No thank you! I really don't care what equipment I fly just "show me the money" and give me pay scales, work rules in writing. That way if I have a problem a steward and the business agent can deal with management.

 

[jetwash]

I would have to say that the 1108 board has recently come alive again and it is great to see so may FJ pilots asking good questions and having the RLA explained just as it was to the FLOPS pilots and TMC pilots.
Regardless if you support a union or not at least hear what they have to say and then make your decision to send in a card or not.

 

[ghostrider64]

Solution....sign your cards immediately and save those who are soon to be hostages. Whether or not you actually become a union will be clear after the final vote. Step,one is simple, just sign the card and put KR on notice that you will fight for each other, before you'll fight for him.

 

[Bill_Lumbergh]

If I were a Flex Jet pilot or a Flight Options pilot, my airplane would not be moving right now. F~ck 'em dry.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Hostage taking has begun. Every Flex pilot is now a target.

 

[HiSpeedFlyer]

And for all you guys not thinking about signing that card, think of your fellow worker cut away from employment for no reason other than to prevent a union coming on property.
Think of his children, seeing their Dad no longer without a job, wondering where he will get his next paycheck to support them.
How aboput those kids wondering if they will have a house to live in because of this cowardly act.

All because KR is trying to make a statement and scare the chickenmerde's out there too afraid to take control of their destinies.

You choose. Leave that family out to dry, or put your big boy britches on and flip KR the finger.

 

[FraxJockey]

There's always two sides to the story. Not saying what happened was right or wrong, just saying get all the facts before passing judgement.

 

[Dirty Squirrel]

And for all you guys not thinking about signing that card, think of your fellow worker cut away from employment for no reason other than to prevent a union coming on property.
Think of his children, seeing their Dad no longer without a job, wondering where he will get his next paycheck to support them.
How aboput those kids wondering if they will have a house to live in because of this cowardly act.

All because KR is trying to make a statement and scare the chickenmerde's out there too afraid to take control of their destinies.

You choose. Leave that family out to dry, or put your big boy britches on and flip KR the finger.

Like Frax Jockey said, get both sides of the story. I can tell you that even though the two guys are in limbo, they are on paid leave.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Anybody know what really happened? Did they bend metal or just cross the invisible management line? Any update? Who will be next?

 

[exagony]

Anybody know what really happened? Did they bend metal or just cross the invisible management line? Any update? Who will be next?

No they didn't bend any metal from my sources. No updates

 

[G4dude]

The really interesting thing about the unionization of Flex is that the hiring process was carefully crafted to hire those who don't believe in unions. So if they unionize, things must be really bad there. Maybe Union organizers should try to convince in a friendly manner, recognizing the sincerity of those who are not yet on board with the union effort.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

G4,You of all people trying to give union organizers advise? I can see how respected you are with your fellow NJI non supporters.

 

[The Architect]

Unhappy

Like Frax Jockey said, get both sides of the story. I can tell you that even though the two guys are in limbo, they are on paid leave.

C'mon. Really?

It's simple. They are Union organizers. They were cited for being "unhappy." Nothing else.

Then told they could resign or be terminated.

What else do you need?

Stop trying so hard to find reasons to dis-believe that this management can rule with total disregard to employees and their families.

KR has done this before. And lost repeatedly.

 

[G4dude]

G4,You of all people trying to give union organizers advise? I can see how respected you are with your fellow NJI non supporters.

Having worked there, I am just reflecting on reality. These anti union pilots at Flex aren't selfish or heartless, they just believe unions are the wrong answer to the right question. To convince them otherwise, treat them with respect is my advice. Also, I suspect an in house union might be required at Flex, although that seems to not be where things are going. I am NOT trying to stir anything up.