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Certificates don't move, why did KR go to Miller aviation in Binghamton in the 1st place. To get their certificate that is Rochester because KR and corporate wings and cle were never gonna work in the Flops world.

There is no drool, and stop twisting my words. Your airplanes can be moved to our certificate easily. Never did I say nor does it mean that we would fly them. It's easy to do, move all your planes, get all you guys through our Indoc and bam everything stays the same. You guys fly um, they r on flops certificate.

Now quit trying to make more Shi@t out of the words that I actually post and speak. I know you live to start sh#t up, but you are f'ng worse than a female. "Yes honey that dress us beautiful", "I knew it you think I am fat".

Certificates do in fact move between FSDOs. You are misinformed. Our certificate is in fact MOVING to ROC as we speak. We are being assigned a new POI. Not sure where you get your facts, but ONCE AGAIN you are wrong.

I am assuming you have never worked in a training department before because you have no idea what it would take to move our pilots and aircraft to the FO certificate. The check rides our pilots get only qualify them to fly their aircraft for FJ. FO would have to get a training program approved, get instructors and sim/line check airman qualified. The the aircraft would have to moved to your approved maintenance program and go through "conformity" before they would be on your certificate. After that all of our pilots would have to go through a complete "initial" training just like the FO transfers to FJ are doing right now.

Since FO has never operated these types of aircraft before "proving runs" would have to be done before revenue legs could be flown.

Of course, what do I know, you seem to claim to be the expert.

You sir, are an idiot who spews false information. The sad part is, you are so clueless that you don't even know the information is false.
 
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TWA all that can be done rather quickly and easilly they have done it many times with new planes and the RTA transaction I don't want to see one FJ pilot screwed on this merger but I don't want to see any Flops pilots screwed either however it is already happening with the global and now the Red Label program. I won't even mention those embarrassing uniforms
 
Per the latest address, the uniform is under review...
 
And TWA is correct on the certificate, for now. The manual is being rewritten in a format the ROC is familiar with and will more readily accept (read to match FO). RH told me that, so I believe it is true. That, coupled with the fences being negotiated (and fences are only precursors to merging), and his stated desire to merge us, means it is coming. I think it is harder since the operational control debacle a few years ago, so I think this will not be an overnight occurance, but it is coming.
 
Certificates do in fact move between FSDOs. You are misinformed. Our certificate is in fact MOVING to ROC as we speak. We are being assigned a new POI. Not sure where you get your facts, but ONCE AGAIN you are wrong.

I am assuming you have never worked in a training department before because you have no idea what it would take to move our pilots and aircraft to the FO certificate. The check rides our pilots get only qualify them to fly their aircraft for FJ. FO would have to get a training program approved, get instructors and sim/line check airman qualified. The the aircraft would have to moved to your approved maintenance program and go through "conformity" before they would be on your certificate. After that all of our pilots would have to go through a complete "initial" training just like the FO transfers to FJ are doing right now.

Since FO has never operated these types of aircraft before "proving runs" would have to be done before revenue legs could be flown.

Of course, what do I know, you seem to claim to be the expert.

You sir, are an idiot who spews false information. The sad part is, you are so clueless that you don't even know the information is false.

'Our certificate'? Do you work for Jet Solutions? I thought Flex doesn't have a 135 certificate, just MSpecs for 91K? The FAA website still lists Jet Solutions (J7SA) as the registered 135 carrier at Waterview, and the jetsolutions.com site is still active. Don't they still 'operate' all your 135 flights?

It's not as difficult to merge an acquired company's planes onto a certificate as you make out. Jet Solutions has all those documents and programs already approved, it wouldn't be that difficult to change the headers and resubmit for approval under FO. The same JS instructors and check airmen could be approved under the FO certificate without too much difficulty. It would take some time and work, but not as much as you seem to think. And proving runs aren't required for an experienced carrier that already operates similar jet aircraft, just validation flights. Big difference, but of course you knew that, right?

Unfortunately for the Options pilots, every Flex pilot could stay in a separate company and fly planes on the FO certificate by being made an agent for service (like you are with Jet Solutions), and the contract's crappy scope clause would allow it as long as the company calls them 'Brand Partners.'

Not saying it's happening - I don't know one way or the other - but your argument doesn't really hold up, and your know-it-all smugness is a bit annoying.
 
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You sir, are an idiot who spews false information. The sad part is, you are so clueless that you don't even know the information is false.

I might do it unintentionally, but I would rsther say false information unintentionally, instead of purposefully like you, because after Handchoo whispers it in your ears when he is behind you, and Ricci tells you as you look up into his eyes, you spread their gospel.
 
'Our certificate'? Do you work for Jet Solutions? I thought Flex doesn't have a 135 certificate, just MSpecs for 91K? The FAA website still lists Jet Solutions (J7SA) as the registered 135 carrier at Waterview, and the jetsolutions.com site is still active. Don't they still 'operate' all your 135 flights?

It's not as difficult to merge an acquired company's planes onto a certificate as you make out. Jet Solutions has all those documents and programs already approved, it wouldn't be that difficult to change the headers and resubmit for approval under FO. The same JS instructors and check airmen could be approved under the FO certificate without too much difficulty. It would take some time and work, but not as much as you seem to think. And proving runs aren't required for an experienced carrier that already operates similar jet aircraft, just validation flights. Big difference, but of course you knew that, right?

Unfortunately for the Options pilots, every Flex pilot could stay in a separate company and fly planes on the FO certificate by being made an agent for service (like you are with Jet Solutions), and the contract's crappy scope clause would allow it as long as the company calls them 'Brand Partners.'

Not saying it's happening - I don't know one way or the other - but your argument doesn't really hold up, and your know-it-all smugness is a bit annoying.

Man you guys are getting late and or bad information lately.

FJ bought JSLLC, so yes, OUR certificate.

Smugness, sorry if you have bad information and I point that out. Does your ego not allow you to be shown you are wrong?
 
I might do it unintentionally, but I would rsther say false information unintentionally, instead of purposefully like you, because after Handchoo whispers it in your ears when he is behind you, and Ricci tells you as you look up into his eyes, you spread their gospel.

Not sure why you guys love to relate sex acts to management. Is there some deep down curiosity that you are hoping to explore with them some day?

I don't spread anyone's "gospel" but my own.
 
Man you guys are getting late and or bad information lately.

FJ bought JSLLC, so yes, OUR certificate.

Smugness, sorry if you have bad information and I point that out. Does your ego not allow you to be shown you are wrong?

Kenn's certificate, you mean. DAC bought JS, and everyone already knew that. Are you telling us Flex and JS are longer separately incorporated entities, and the FAA and the Flexjet front page are wrong? There's a difference, whether you see it or not.

My main point anyway was that Kenn can mix the flying without combining certificates - you guys have long acted as agents for one 135 certificate holder, it's pretty easy to get you to act as agents for another. If the FOM and training programs are aligned, so much the easier. He could also bring the programs together without nearly so much difficulty as you said, and you were shown to be incorrect on a couple other of your ASSertions but I didn't see any mea culpa from you. Show me where I'm wrong and I'll be the first to admit - a trait you don't seem to share, so I'm sure you can't even see the irony in your last statement.
 

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