IBT 1108 Attempts to take NJASAP funds

[be-400xpdriver]

Wow. You're classy. Thanks for contributing.

You are welcome.

 

[GerryG]

The NJASAP and retiring NJA 1108 leadership PLEDGE continued support to the Flight Options pilots; financial and whatever else may be needed in the Flight Options pilot efforts.

Wow, thats super nice of you guys, helpen us out like that. After all you couldn't have timed the separation any better, what with us being in the end-game of bargaining right now and all.

But you know, I'm curious, is that why our message board went down in the middle of the night last night, you folks being supportive, "to all Flight Options pilots" and all?

But I guess a birds gotta leave the nest sometime, so thanks so much for that last little nudge. We won't forget it.

 

[Freedom]

My Final Post on this Subject:

As Options SLAVE stated:

"....anyone can see from reading this thread from start to finish, it is how the NJASAP leadership tried and failed to smear the FO MEC...."

To this Smear attempt, I have one final question:

Why? What is it they were attempting to deflect attention from? I can't wait until the IBT Attorney's dig through all this crap.

I smell a Rat alright, and it ain't the Options MEC nor the IBT National.

People don't get as defensive as these NetJets Pilots have unless they have something to hide.

Fortunately, the vast majority of the IBT 1108 assets are now secure.

Nice Job Mat and AJ.

And as for the IBT 1108 Message Board, I have it directly from Mat that our former "Brothers" over at NetJets are responsible for that. We will get another one up and running if need be, but this was nothing other than a childish act by those who are thinking with their Egos rather than their Brains. Real classy Gentlemen.

Enough said.

Freedom is Not Free

 

[CA1900]

But you know, I'm curious, is that why our message board went down in the middle of the night last night, you folks being supportive, "to all Flight Options pilots" and all?

We don't, and didn't, run your message board. Better check with your guys on that one.

 

[Options_SLAVE]

lmao, you sir are hoffa and moore's 'wet dream' of the perfect teamster.

obedient, subservient, unquestioning of your leadership and willing to rely on rumor instead of facts.

carry on.

Hmmm. Believe that if you wish. I seem to remember a picture of Bill Olson wearing a Teamsters shirt and personally seeing him and other NJASAP leaders endorsing Hoffa during the election. Hundreds of Net Jets pilots did. Sounds pretty "do as I say not as I do" to me. You guys are hypocrits, but that's fine, it's a free country.

I'm glad the Local's money is where it's supposed to be and hope that there comes to light no illegal activities on anyone's part regarding the Local's money. If there was any, it WILL be fleshed out, and the appropriate law suits and/or criminal charges would of course take place. Personally, I hope there are NO such findings, suits, or charges. We all should be brothers and standing together in this industry and this petty bickering over a check and bank accounts is just that - petty, in the long run. Carry on.

 

[Options_SLAVE]

We don't, and didn't, run your message board. Better check with your guys on that one.

No, but there were some, with logged IP addresses and (logged) root login access I might add, that had access to the server it was on. By the way - if that is proved, that someone was vindictive and decided to hack/crash the message board, that WOULD be a felony offense.

 

[be-400xpdriver]

. After all you couldn't have timed the separation any better, what with us being in the end-game of bargaining right now and all.

Yes it is a great time for the NJA pilots to leave IBT 1108. The FLOPS pilots are free to do what ever is needed to finish the game. Might I suggest flying "The PLEDGE".

 

[Options_SLAVE]

Yes it is a great time for the NJA pilots to leave IBT 1108.

Spoken like a true friend. The timing couldn't have been worse for the Options pilots, and there was no urgency, only greed, that motivated it.

 

[CastofThousands]

Hmmm. Believe that if you wish. I seem to remember a picture of Bill Olson wearing a Teamsters shirt and personally seeing him and other NJASAP leaders endorsing Hoffa during the election. Hundreds of Net Jets pilots did. Sounds pretty "do as I say not as I do" to me. You guys are hypocrits, but that's fine, it's a free country.

I'm glad the Local's money is where it's supposed to be and hope that there comes to light no illegal activities on anyone's part regarding the Local's money. If there was any, it WILL be fleshed out, and the appropriate law suits and/or criminal charges would of course take place. Personally, I hope there are NO such findings, suits, or charges. We all should be brothers and standing together in this industry and this petty bickering over a check and bank accounts is just that - petty, in the long run. Carry on.

Hoffa and the Teamsters have failed the piloting profession in more ways than many will ever know. Hoffa was given an opportunity to turn things around before the NetJets pilot group left the Teamsters. He failed, again. But, he was given that opportunity.

If the profession elects to wait for Hoffa and the Teamsters, that's bad news for all. But, the NetJets pilots only gave them so much time to turn it around.

That was understood before Local 1108 was charted.

 

[TORCH67]

I'm sure you can trust the IBT attorneys to do the right and legal thing!!!!

Freedom and all, you miss the point because you are looking through blinders! The NJA pilots and leadership had nothing to hide or steal. Do you really think stealing funds wouldn't be uncovered and prosecuted??? Do you really think after everything that has taken place in the last 3 years they would risk thier jobs, and possible jail time over union funds? The NJA 1108 leadership has always been up front and transparent with the membership. Can you say the same for the actions from your current leadership over the last few days?