Heres Whats Happening At Nj Hiring...

[Fozzy]

I'm thinking that the NJA pilots could perhaps do something like that, on behalf of their fellow pilots (potential NJA brothers/sisters) out there left in the dark. If I were there and heard about this stuff going on, I certainly would. Perhaps the new union could look into it...
3 mo. now since the interview for me.

Right. I will get right on that. I am sure they would love to hear from me telling them how they should be doing their job.
The process sucks. Nothing can be done to change that. Sorry.

BTW, the Union is helping to change the hiring process. For what that is worth.

 

[F/O]

In this day and age a paper app is downright ridiculous. Plain and simple. That's certainly what I was thinking as I was filling the damn thing out, wasting all my time with Adobe trying to get the text perfectly in the boxes, etc. Then I thought about the recruiters drowning in paper trying to pick the most qualified guys out of a stack ten feet tall and it seemed even more ridiculous. We may never know what happened with this shakeup but hopefully it will result in NJ pilot HR getting zapped into the 21st century.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

NJA training doesn't want you to bring with you another operators way of doing things.

Like any good communist organization... CMH specializes in "re-education camps".

Stalin would be proud!

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

My buddy at NJA says that by about Nov they will change to a 100% online application process.

cliff
YIP

 

[realityman]

atpcliff,

This is true.

And for everyone about to apply, or that has already applied: When we make the transition, ALL the current apps will be flushed.

Let me repeat that: ALL THE CURRENT APPS WILL BE FLUSHED!

If you've applied, you will NO LONGER HAVE AN APPLICATION ON FILE!

I truly hope that NJA's hiring department will send out notices to everyone that's applied to let them know they will have to reapply electronically. But I wouldn't hold my breath about that.

After November, just plan on reapplying electronically.

 

[gunfyter]

Hi!

My buddy at NJA says that by about Nov they will change to a 100% online application process.

cliff
YIP

Yes. This is to get people conditioned to use CONCUR.


We have a lot of people complaining about having to do expense reports online If we make the paper job application so tedious ... they will be nothing but thankful that expense reports are paperless.

 

[CA1900]

We have a lot of people complaining about having to do expense reports online....

No, you have one person complaining a lot. It just seems like a lot of people.

 

[o2bflyn]

To hit the question about whether you can get the plane you are typed in, one guy in my class got the same plane he had flown at CS. However, he went through the same training as the rest of us. Only diff was he did not have to give up his certificate for the check. Same check though,

I am sure this is going to prove to be an ignorant question, but what you you mean by "give up his certificate for the check"?

 

[amflightpilot]

its a play on words: certificate = license

 

[Helmsalee]

When you take a type rating check, you give the examiner your ATP. After the check, he either gives you a temp with the new rating included or a pink slip meaning your ATP is in limbo until you pass a check. Not having ever gotten the latter, I think that is how it works.

 

[flagshipper]

i dont think they take your ATP if you fail

 

[theskyking]

When you take a type rating check, you give the examiner your ATP. After the check, he either gives you a temp with the new rating included or a pink slip meaning your ATP is in limbo until you pass a check. Not having ever gotten the latter, I think that is how it works.

Uh, no.

 

[Vertigo37]

Un-7500

Please...I just changed my Depends as the no letter in the mail box yet. Good luck to those who got the call----several including me are now waiting for the magic.

And I will buy plenty of rounds:beer:

 

[FLYLOW22]

Yes. This is to get people conditioned to use CONCUR.


We have a lot of people complaining about having to do expense reports online If we make the paper job application so tedious ... they will be nothing but thankful that expense reports are paperless.

Concur sux.

 

[RTRHD]

Concur sux.

I thought it was pretty easy. We get paid with end the week. Unless you guys have another format. But take it easy FlyLow a friend of mine says this whole digital thing is just a fad.

 

[flagshipper]

Concur sux.

Guess it is what you are used to but my paper expense reports at the last job used to take 2 to 4 weeks to get paid. So filling in a few blanks and clicking submit doesnt seem that hard.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Concur sux.

Dude, I'm no computer guy. Don't even own a laptop. E-mail and FI are about the limits of my computer ability. But CONCUR ain't that bad. Once you figure it out, it takes about 10 minutes. And we have to do way more entries since we're not on per diem and have to account for every meal charge on the credit card. Wait til you do an international trip and have to go back and code "International Hotel Tax".....or you pick up the check for 9 crewmembers at dinner in Honolulu and have to remember all the other names so you can put them in the "Business Meal" attendee list :beer:

 

[realityman]

Yeah, I'm not sure what the big deal about concur is. You pick a date for the expense, click on a category on the right (shuttle, pax bags, lav service, etc...and there's a category for pretty much everything), then fill in the amount. Takes about 5 seconds per expense.
Itemizing hotels takes about 10 seconds.

Concur is fast and easy.

Now, the human side of it working back in CMH is a whole other story.

 

[Spooky 2]

From what I understood, only NJ crews would use the facility and any overflow requirements the company had could be covered at other facilities. The only question mark was branding on the front door and who the instructors and staff would actually be working for. Then again, the money all goes into the same pocket anyway. And that would be Uncle Warren's rather large, deep pockets

FSI is an FAA approved Part 142 school and regardless of who steps into the box with the students, he/she will fall under that umbrella. The exception to that would be if NJ was doing dry training which it does not sound like is their past practice.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Dude, I'm no computer guy. Don't even own a laptop. E-mail and FI are about the limits of my computer ability. But CONCUR ain't that bad. Once you figure it out, it takes about 10 minutes. And we have to do way more entries since we're not on per diem and have to account for every meal charge on the credit card. Wait til you do an international trip and have to go back and code "International Hotel Tax".....or you pick up the check for 9 crewmembers at dinner in Honolulu and have to remember all the other names so you can put them in the "Business Meal" attendee list :beer:

Wait, wait, wait... I've heard all of this before somewhere...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WZEJ4OJTgg8&feature=related