Heres Whats Happening At Nj Hiring...

[Pervis]

I though it was being advertised as the world's largest Flight Safety. From that, I am guessing that it will be staffed and run by FS for NJ. But since that's my guess, I would bet on anything else.

IP at FSI recurrent CMH said they are looking to hire a couple hundred new people to handle the load at the new facility. They are hiring now, so it will be FSI. The folks at CMH are training the NJA way, unlike the other centers, and the relationship with NJA is very tight.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Thanx 4 updating us-it really helps those of us looking 4 jobs!

cliff
MCI

 

[o2bflyn]

Basically, FSI gets you the type (using NJA SOPs and procedures).

NJA training takes it from there after you are typed and "fixes the glitches" with aircraft familiarization flying and IOE.

It's changed now but in years past, following the FSI check ride, we'd get 3 flights in the real plane and another check ride (in the plane).

Lot's of fun... glad it changed.

I see what you are saying....makes sense, thanks.

 

[CA1900]

I've seen NetJets compared to Southwest several times on this forum. They certainly don't hold a candle in this area....

Nope. Southwest makes you buy your own hotel room for the interview. :laugh:

The back and forth/ waiting 2-3 months to get the "you're hired" word is just crazy and unprofessional.

Southwest helpfully let me wait over 7 weeks for a rejection letter. Having done both, I found the whole process at NetJets to be far more professional, honestly.

 

[Tatin12]

Nope. Southwest makes you buy your own hotel room for the interview. :laugh:




Southwest helpfully let me wait over 7 weeks for a rejection letter. Having done both, I found the whole process at NetJets to be far more professional, honestly.

CA1900 -- when were you hired at NJA? I have friends hired as recently as Nov 2007 that were getting the word within 24 hours? If you were hired pre-2008 I'm not surprised in the slightest that you thought the NJA process was more professional. Although Southwest may have let you wait 7 weeks, guys right now are waiting 2-3 months.

Not only are they waiting for eons, but someone within the hiring department is giving them false hope with an "unofficial you're hired email". In many cases those people received emails last week tell them that they are actually still being evaluated. What on earth are these folks left to think? I expect more out of a company like NetJets.

 

[skiandsurf]

I expect more out of a company like NetJets.

And so do we. Apparently, there is a shake up in the hiring department, and until it gets straightened out, expect some problems.

 

[CA1900]

CA1900 -- when were you hired at NJA?

A couple of years ago now. I think I found out a week or so after the interview, if that.

Hopefully we can get through these growing pains, as we're dragging things out for a lot of people in the process, from what I've been hearing. Hopefully it'll all be worth it in the end.

The "unofficial e-mails" thing seems a little shady to me, too. How about, "Congratulations, we're pleased to let you know that you've passed our interview, and are awaiting successful completion of our background check. While this is not yet an offer of employment, we wanted to keep you updated..." No gray area at all. A letter like that would seem more professional to me than these unofficial e-mails.

 

[Fozzy]

I expect more out of a company like NetJets.

Maybe you should call up the folks in hiring and tell them what you expect.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

Maybe you should call up the folks in hiring and tell them what you expect.

I'm thinking that the NJA pilots could perhaps do something like that, on behalf of their fellow pilots (potential NJA brothers/sisters) out there left in the dark. If I were there and heard about this stuff going on, I certainly would. Perhaps the new union could look into it...
3 mo. now since the interview for me.

 

[Helmsalee]

To hit the question about whether you can get the plane you are typed in, one guy in my class got the same plane he had flown at CS. However, he went through the same training as the rest of us. Only diff was he did not have to give up his certificate for the check. Same check though,

 

[Fozzy]

I'm thinking that the NJA pilots could perhaps do something like that, on behalf of their fellow pilots (potential NJA brothers/sisters) out there left in the dark. If I were there and heard about this stuff going on, I certainly would. Perhaps the new union could look into it...
3 mo. now since the interview for me.

Right. I will get right on that. I am sure they would love to hear from me telling them how they should be doing their job.
The process sucks. Nothing can be done to change that. Sorry.

BTW, the Union is helping to change the hiring process. For what that is worth.

 

[F/O]

In this day and age a paper app is downright ridiculous. Plain and simple. That's certainly what I was thinking as I was filling the damn thing out, wasting all my time with Adobe trying to get the text perfectly in the boxes, etc. Then I thought about the recruiters drowning in paper trying to pick the most qualified guys out of a stack ten feet tall and it seemed even more ridiculous. We may never know what happened with this shakeup but hopefully it will result in NJ pilot HR getting zapped into the 21st century.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

NJA training doesn't want you to bring with you another operators way of doing things.

Like any good communist organization... CMH specializes in "re-education camps".

Stalin would be proud!

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

My buddy at NJA says that by about Nov they will change to a 100% online application process.

cliff
YIP

 

[realityman]

atpcliff,

This is true.

And for everyone about to apply, or that has already applied: When we make the transition, ALL the current apps will be flushed.

Let me repeat that: ALL THE CURRENT APPS WILL BE FLUSHED!

If you've applied, you will NO LONGER HAVE AN APPLICATION ON FILE!

I truly hope that NJA's hiring department will send out notices to everyone that's applied to let them know they will have to reapply electronically. But I wouldn't hold my breath about that.

After November, just plan on reapplying electronically.