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When you take a type rating check, you give the examiner your ATP. After the check, he either gives you a temp with the new rating included or a pink slip meaning your ATP is in limbo until you pass a check. Not having ever gotten the latter, I think that is how it works.

I have never heard of that. Having never failed a type check, I am not sure I would have though. Interesting.
 
I have never heard of that. Having never failed a type check, I am not sure I would have though. Interesting.

When you fail a type ride, you do not lose your ATP and all associated type ratings, you simply do not acquire the new type rating. We've had captains fail the 767 type ride only to simply return to their previous position as DC-8 or DC-9 captain. If the examiner observes performance and/or behavior that is not up to ATP standards, he or she always has the option of confiscating your certificate, but I've never even heard of that being done before.
 
When you fail a type ride, you do not lose your ATP and all associated type ratings, you simply do not acquire the new type rating. We've had captains fail the 767 type ride only to simply return to their previous position as DC-8 or DC-9 captain. If the examiner observes performance and/or behavior that is not up to ATP standards, he or she always has the option of confiscating your certificate, but I've never even heard of that being done before.
Thats the way I've heard it's done as well, next chance I get I'll ask the guy that just typed me a few months ago.
 
When you fail a type ride, you do not lose your ATP and all associated type ratings, you simply do not acquire the new type rating. We've had captains fail the 767 type ride only to simply return to their previous position as DC-8 or DC-9 captain. If the examiner observes performance and/or behavior that is not up to ATP standards, he or she always has the option of confiscating your certificate, but I've never even heard of that being done before.

Not really! To confiscate your certificate requres a legal process. No one has the authority to take a certificate away without following the process. But, what frequently happens after a bust is that the FAA will suspend (by letter to the airman and the air carrier certificate holder) any existing Part 121 or Part 135 proficiency/competency checks held by the airman until he/she is rechecked. If the busted checkride was truly awful, the FAA will send the airman a Part 61 reexamination letter that puts at risk all certificates and ratings held.
 
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Concur would be MUCH MORE manageable if:

-Receipts were submittable electronically.

-Offline (no internet connection) work were able to be performed.

I agree on the off line part. Been saying that for years now.
Disagree on submitting the receipts electronically. Do you mean scanning?? That would be a pain in the a$$. Much easier to just staple and mail.
 
Dude, I'm no computer guy. Don't even own a laptop. E-mail and FI are about the limits of my computer ability. But CONCUR ain't that bad. Once you figure it out, it takes about 10 minutes. And we have to do way more entries since we're not on per diem and have to account for every meal charge on the credit card. Wait til you do an international trip and have to go back and code "International Hotel Tax".....or you pick up the check for 9 crewmembers at dinner in Honolulu and have to remember all the other names so you can put them in the "Business Meal" attendee list :beer:
10 minutes??? Takes me at least 1 hour per report, then another 30 after T&E kicks it back so I can do their job for them. I NEVER had one kicked back on the paper system.

I concur. Concur sux.
 
10 minutes??? Takes me at least 1 hour per report, then another 30 after T&E kicks it back so I can do their job for them. I NEVER had one kicked back on the paper system.

I concur. Concur sux.
You need to stop hanging out with Flylow so much, he's apparently infecting your brain. Do your cash expenses daily, then it takes less than 10 minutes to prepare and mail the report at the end of the tour. Do your credit card expenses the following tour (they should all be posted on Concur by then) and it takes less than 10 minutes to prepare and mail the report at the end of that tour.


It takes me an hour to do my expenses because I'm lazy and end up having to do 4-6 at a time. ;)
 
10 minutes??? Takes me at least 1 hour per report, then another 30 after T&E kicks it back so I can do their job for them. I NEVER had one kicked back on the paper system.

I concur. Concur sux.

I hated it at first too. You figure it out after a while. I've got it down to about 10-15 minutes for a domestic tour and maybe a little longer for international. Of course, that's PER expense report. Like the Grump, I have a tendency sometimes to let two or three stack up and then I start getting the e-mail nastygrams about outstanding expenses :eek:
 
I've only been here a year, and have been on the concur the whole time. I learned to do a totally new job, and do concur expense reports AT THE SAME TIME. OMFG...... its not that difficult!!


type of expense..TAB location (3 letter ident)TAB TAB amount (just use 1 number, you don't even need a decimal) then ENTER.. each expense takes maybe 10-15 seconds....Never had an a tips/per diem report denied.

lemme guess, you all probably think we could have negotiated a better contract in the next round of negotiations also... Speaking of that, I never hear anybody say how fortunate we were in the timing of the IBB.... Pre-IBB Majors were hiring, pilots leaving, economy didn't suck too much ETC...

IBB signed, majors furloughing , economy sucks, and we get the good end of the stick. I consider ourselves really fortunate to have gotten what we got, especially since maybe 6 months later ever other airline went to shi.t...

But seriously keep on bitchin.g..... It keeps me entertained on the NJASAP board....

"this message is not to be taken too seriously. it's all in good fun" thank you:D
 
Remember CRJ, the only difference between a pilot and a jet engine......
 
I've only been here a year, and have been on the concur the whole time. I learned to do a totally new job, and do concur expense reports AT THE SAME TIME. OMFG...... its not that difficult!!


type of expense..TAB location (3 letter ident)TAB TAB amount (just use 1 number, you don't even need a decimal) then ENTER.. each expense takes maybe 10-15 seconds....Never had an a tips/per diem report denied.

lemme guess, you all probably think we could have negotiated a better contract in the next round of negotiations also... Speaking of that, I never hear anybody say how fortunate we were in the timing of the IBB.... Pre-IBB Majors were hiring, pilots leaving, economy didn't suck too much ETC...

IBB signed, majors furloughing , economy sucks, and we get the good end of the stick. I consider ourselves really fortunate to have gotten what we got, especially since maybe 6 months later ever other airline went to shi.t...

But seriously keep on bitchin.g..... It keeps me entertained on the NJASAP board....

"this message is not to be taken too seriously. it's all in good fun" thank you:D


Please don't let management see this...

Please don't let management see this...

Please don't let management see this...

You just failed Union 101. Never let them know you are so happy. Even if you are.
 
Careful Fisch, B19 post coming in 3....2.....1....
 
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I agree on the off line part. Been saying that for years now.
Disagree on submitting the receipts electronically. Do you mean scanning?? That would be a pain in the a$$. Much easier to just staple and mail.


What's worse? Scanning receipts to create an E-Record of them or having T and E lose your receipts and still hold you accountable for finding new ones.

No reciepts? No problem. No per diem... until T and E gets "theirs".

And what is this drivel about the company being responsible for charges made on the card? Read the fine print. WE are still PERSONALLY responsible for any charges made ont he card. Where's my Hilton AMEX?

I can get Hilton/Airline points at least (with the risk) going with that card.


:uzi: :uzi: Concur/Company Card.:smash: :smash:
:bomb: :bomb:
 
Not saying there isn't room for improvement.....2 nights in a hotel on your last 2 days is kinda stupid when they could probably send ya home a day early...But like everyone says.."big picture"

But i flew with a guy this week who spent 2 days telling me how the company will screw ya this way and that... Like in the past 8 years of flying for 4 different companies I wouldn't have figured that out already. Hence the reason I changed companies so many times!!! and have yet to find a really good reason to be pissed at Mgmnt here..

My theory, if ya wanna bitch all day... go back to your old regional where there is something to really bitch about.
 
Please don't let management see this...

Please don't let management see this...

Please don't let management see this...


You failed recurrent too my friend.
 

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