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Delta Pilot Contract Means More Jet Purchases, Union Says


By Mary Jane Credeur - May 21, 2012 1:21 PM MT


Delta Airlines may soon purchase more narrow-body jets when a tentative contract with its pilot union is ratified by a majority of members.
The accord, which includes pay raises of almost 20 percent, would allow many first officers to upgrade to captain while also creating additional openings for new first officers, Tim O’Malley, chairman of the executive council for the Delta chapter of ALPA, wrote today in a letter to members.


The contract would also allow the Atlanta-based airline to add more 76-seat regional jets, although “this access can only occur if Delta first acquires small narrow-body jets flown by Delta mainline pilots,” while also getting rid of more 50-seat aircraft flown by regional partners, O’Malley said. Pilots prize jobs on main jet fleets because it means better pay and benefits over the long term.

Analysts have speculated that Delta is among the interested buyers of the 88 717s that Southwest Airlines acquired when it purchased AirTran Holdings Inc. last year. Southwest has said repeatedly it would like to get rid of the planes as soon as it can. The jets have 117 seats and if acquired by Delta would be flown by the carrier’s pilots rather than by regional partners.


“All Arrangements”

“We’re looking at all arrangements and we have taken note that Southwest has indicated a desire to exit the fleet,” Delta President Ed Bastian said at a March 13 conference hosted by JPMorgan Chase in response to a question about the carrier’s interest in the Southwest 717s.

O’Malley’s letter didn’t specify what types of planes Delta would buy, although he said it would increase the ratio of domestic flying on Delta’s main jet fleet relative to flying by regional partners by 57 percent over the life of the contract.

The tentative contract will soon be sent to the 10,850 pilots for a ratification vote, and will be finalized if a majority of them approve it. Pilots will get a 4 percent pay raise upon ratification, with an additional 8.5 percent on January 1, then another 3 percent in years 2014 and 2015, O’Malley said in the letter.

The contract would give Delta “productivity gains and additional aircraft flexibility, including an opportunity to accelerate Delta’s domestic fleet restructuring strategy, which will result in a better customer travel experience,” said Gina Laughlin, a spokeswoman for the company, in a telephone interview. She declined to elaborate on what types of planes the company may buy.

Delta rose 4.3 percent to $10.58 at the close in New York. The stock has advanced 31 percent this year.

To contact the reporter on this story: Mary Jane Credeur in Atlanta



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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Delta Pilot Contract Means More Jet Purchases, Union Says


By Mary Jane Credeur - May 21, 2012 1:21 PM MT


Delta Airlines may soon purchase more narrow-body jets when a tentative contract with its pilot union is ratified by a majority of members.
The accord, which includes pay raises of almost 20 percent, would allow many first officers to upgrade to captain while also creating additional openings for new first officers, Tim O’Malley, chairman of the executive council for the Delta chapter of ALPA, wrote today in a letter to members.


The contract would also allow the Atlanta-based airline to add more 76-seat regional jets, although “this access can only occur if Delta first acquires small narrow-body jets flown by Delta mainline pilots,” while also getting rid of more 50-seat aircraft flown by regional partners, O’Malley said. Pilots prize jobs on main jet fleets because it means better pay and benefits over the long term.

Analysts have speculated that Delta is among the interested buyers of the 88 717s that Southwest Airlines acquired when it purchased AirTran Holdings Inc. last year. Southwest has said repeatedly it would like to get rid of the planes as soon as it can. The jets have 117 seats and if acquired by Delta would be flown by the carrier’s pilots rather than by regional partners.


“All Arrangements”

“We’re looking at all arrangements and we have taken note that Southwest has indicated a desire to exit the fleet,” Delta President Ed Bastian said at a March 13 conference hosted by JPMorgan Chase in response to a question about the carrier’s interest in the Southwest 717s.

O’Malley’s letter didn’t specify what types of planes Delta would buy, although he said it would increase the ratio of domestic flying on Delta’s main jet fleet relative to flying by regional partners by 57 percent over the life of the contract.

The tentative contract will soon be sent to the 10,850 pilots for a ratification vote, and will be finalized if a majority of them approve it. Pilots will get a 4 percent pay raise upon ratification, with an additional 8.5 percent on January 1, then another 3 percent in years 2014 and 2015, O’Malley said in the letter.

The contract would give Delta “productivity gains and additional aircraft flexibility, including an opportunity to accelerate Delta’s domestic fleet restructuring strategy, which will result in a better customer travel experience,” said Gina Laughlin, a spokeswoman for the company, in a telephone interview. She declined to elaborate on what types of planes the company may buy.

Delta rose 4.3 percent to $10.58 at the close in New York. The stock has advanced 31 percent this year.

To contact the reporter on this story: Mary Jane Credeur in Atlanta



Bye Bye---General Lee

Yeah, haven't heard that one before
 
Not my fight directly, but of course it effects the whole industry at some level, so I am an interested spectator. Interesting the pilot's that are so quick to judge this thing without knowing more, Especially interesting thinking tossing out alpa will improve their position, 216 an hour for 737 Captain plus 15% DC isn't an "insult". What does SWA get, how do work rules compare?
Do people really think trying to get DPA on the property will result in anything other than stagnation?
 
Delta Pilot Contract Means More Jet Purchases, Union Says

Is there any contract in the history of the airline biz that has not either explicitly or implicitly made that "promise?" Don't fall for it.

Two and half years to reach SWA rates (to say nothing of our W2s)?

Way to "take it back" guys. :rolleyes: I can't wait to pass the "Industry Leading" title back to your double-breasted selves, but you've still got to nut-up and ask R.A. for it.
 
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Not my fight directly, but of course it effects the whole industry at some level, so I am an interested spectator. Interesting the pilot's that are so quick to judge this thing without knowing more, Especially interesting thinking tossing out alpa will improve their position, 216 an hour for 737 Captain plus 15% DC isn't an "insult". What does SWA get, how do work rules compare?
Do people really think trying to get DPA on the property will result in anything other than stagnation?

Dan,

You probably should be more interested in this TA than others since it may affect you directly someday. Sounds like our fleets will be pretty well matched if we do get those AT 717s. Just sayin.... My own opinion? I don't think it will lead to any furloughs, rather big hiring if those 717s come this way. I do not like the pay at all though. Way low in my opinion.


Godspeed!


The OYSter
 
Is there any contract in the history of the airline biz that has not either explicitly or implicitly made that "promise?" Don't fall for it.

Two and half years to reach SWA rates (to say nothing of our W2s)?

Way to "take it back" guys. :bawling:

Just curious, starting from the date SWA was founded, how many years did it take to reach Delta rates?

IMO, SWA current payscale was funded by years of absolutely phenomenal(possibly lucky) fuel hedging. Now that the edge is gone, we'll see who makes more in the next 10 year period, the DAL pilot, or the SWA pilot.

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Is there any contract in the history of the airline biz that has not either explicitly or implicitly made that "promise?" Don't fall for it.

Two and half years to reach SWA rates (to say nothing of our W2s)?

Way to "take it back" guys. :bawling:

It may be sooner than 2 1/2 years. Looks like GK is setting you guys up for paycuts or status quo at best. Hold the line guys! At least now our Whale, 777, A330, and 767-400 guys will make more per hour than your 737s. Truth!


Godspeed!


The OYSter
 
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216 an hour for 737 Captain plus 15% DC isn't an "insult". What does SWA get

Factoring in company 401k match (all we get, no DC plan), SWA senior captains make $236.09/hr after converting from TFP. With the Delta TA, they would be making $249.46/hr including their DC contribution.
 
This TA doesn't bring us inline with SWA, it gets us close, and in 4 years from now, not on an earlier timeline as was expected. I think we all expected more considering the huge profits.

The raise is ok, but if it comes with a reduction in profit sharing, and an increase in 76 seat jets at DCI, it is really going to upset people. Promises of narrow body purchases are ridiculous, and total posturing.

We still haven't seen an actual TA as DALPA seems to be getting out in front of it to manage us. I think ALPA has given so many people a bad taste in their mouth, that a lackluster TA is the latest and biggest disappointment. People want to have their jobs restored to what it once was like, and believe a stronger hand with management is how you go about it. ALPA doesn't seem to take a strong enough approach for lots of guys.
 

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