Guppy killer sticker?????

[WalterSobchak]

The best thing coming from the Skywest pilot group though is calling a Brasilia a "Bro."

I prefer "BroZilla", thank you.

So, is it just me, or does anyone else feel like they're reading some overly-dramatic high school girl's diary when they read threads like this?

"Like, OMG, can you believe the sticker on her backpack? You know, the one that says she slept with my boyfirend? What a whore. Like, I can't believe that...I am sooo going to stomp her after school."

Want to be taken seriously as professionals? You can start by growing up a little and not worrying about the one guy at whatever airline who has a sticker on his flight case. Sure, the sticker is classless...but does it make you any classier when you detain the offender and threaten to kick his arse?

People like this are one of those things that, if you ignore them, and they go away. I know...I was once a professional Yuk-Monkey*. We pick and push the limit 'til no one pays attention anymore. Then we move on.

Of course, you guys won't ignore it...you're all pilots; whining and complaining about stupid crap is just in your nature.

No... it's not.

OK, for someone that enjoys being paid from the moment he steps on the property to the moment he leaves and doesn't have to worry about the ridiculous math you people have to do to make sure your paycheck is right...can someone please explain to me how the SKW -700/-900 override "isn't the same"? I'm at least fairly certain what Caspian27 means is that, at the end of the day, his check (including the override) comes out to more than an RAH F/O. So, do explain...



* Yuk-Monkey - that one ridiculous guy on the AM drive radio show you listen to on the way to the airport that does and says just about anything for a laugh.

 

[AWACoff]

The best thing coming from the Skywest pilot group though is calling a Brasilia a "Bro." I still can't figure out the phonetics behind that. I guess "Hooked on Phonics" didn't work for me.

It all came from the Hawaiian Chamorros. They started calling each other "Bra" instead of "Bro"...
And there you have it.

Next question.

 

[Flying Illini]

I've never seen the sticker, nor have I ever heard of anyone (other than mainline) refer to the 170 as a "guppy killer." Anyway...isn't the 190/195 more of a "guppy killer" than the 170?

If anyone here ever did refer to the airplane as "guppy killer" with a sense of pride then please refer to the "sock full of pennies" comment made earlier.

 

[PCL_128]

OK, for someone that enjoys being paid from the moment he steps on the property to the moment he leaves and doesn't have to worry about the ridiculous math you people have to do to make sure your paycheck is right...can someone please explain to me how the SKW -700/-900 override "isn't the same"?

The override only applies to block time. Any soft time from vacation, cancellations, training, etc... only gets paid at the base 50-seat rate. A guy at ASA on the 70-seater gets paid all of his credit time at the 70-hour rate instead of just the block time. It adds up to quite a bit of difference.

 

[WalterSobchak]

The override only applies to block time. Any soft time from vacation, cancellations, training, etc... only gets paid at the base 50-seat rate. A guy at ASA on the 70-seater gets paid all of his credit time at the 70-hour rate instead of just the block time. It adds up to quite a bit of difference.

Gotcha...thanks

 

[cybourg10]

Instead of beating up RAH dorks this UAL guy needs to send his punches towards the idiots that gave up scope in the first place. Just look for the "scope killer" stickers.......

 

[russtgol]

Yeah I got a Guppy Killer sticker on my bag.. I have a bunch of extras. PM me if you want me to hook you up with one.

 

[nimtz]

No because we get paid about the same to fly the 70 as everyone else. Yes it's an override, but in the end it equates to the same thing.

Republic - SkyWest 70 seat FO pay:
1- $23 $22
2- $31 $37
3- $36 $39
4- $37 $40
5- $37 $41
6- $37 $43
7- $37 $44

God almighty do those numbers make me cringe. Oh well at least the age old solution will always work: :erm:
"Don't worry dude, you'll upgrade in two years!"

 

[I_Love_Lamp]

OK, for someone that enjoys being paid from the moment he steps on the property to the moment he leaves and doesn't have to worry about the ridiculous math you people have to do to make sure your paycheck is right...can someone please explain to me how the SKW -700/-900 override "isn't the same"? I'm at least fairly certain what Caspian27 means is that, at the end of the day, his check (including the override) comes out to more than an RAH F/O. So, do explain...

Like PCL 128 said, the difference lies in training events and other "soft time". A SKW pilot who flies only the 700 would be paid the 200 payrate when deadheading, sitting in training, collecting min duty pay on a scheduled day of overnighting or something along those lines (the benefits of the "contract").

So it's not the same. The pilots who are working with the subpar wages may justify it how they wish, but it's not the same. I have some friends at SKW and the ones on here saying "it's the same" are the 5%ers you see everywhere (though at SKW I'm afraid it's more like 50%! eek!) They need to be reminded that a little humility is a very good thing, because nobody stays at the "top" of the regionals for long. They're developing the 2004-05 XJT ego, and look where they have ended up....

 

[rchcfi]

The override only applies to block time. Any soft time from vacation, cancellations, training, etc... only gets paid at the base 50-seat rate. A guy at ASA on the 70-seater gets paid all of his credit time at the 70-hour rate instead of just the block time. It adds up to quite a bit of difference.

Yet SKYW 50 seat rates are still higher than Republic 70 seat rates and they're ALPO right?

You have to get beyond just black and white and see the whole picture. But since you have never worked for SKYW, you'll never understand. (Actually you don't want to understand because you have a closed mind)

If I really cared about trying to justify it to you, I would....But trying to talk to any ex-Gulfstream PFT pukes is useless.

So go get back on your MD-95 that you fly for lower rates than the other carrier in the states, and quit spewing your crap on here!

 

[79%N1]

Yet SKYW 50 seat rates are still higher than Republic 70 seat rates and they're ALPO right?

I believe they are IBT.....

And I think you had a typo. It's ALPA. Airline Pilots Association.

Or you are purposely disrespecting the organization many on here belong to. Just because you don't want to be a part doesn't mean you need to disrespect it.

 

[fried chickens]

Honest question, what is this ALPO joke about? Why are they making fun of ALPA by calling it ALPO?

 

[duck_killer]

The override only applies to block time. Any soft time from vacation, cancellations, training, etc... only gets paid at the base 50-seat rate. A guy at ASA on the 70-seater gets paid all of his credit time at the 70-hour rate instead of just the block time. It adds up to quite a bit of difference.

How much did your job cost at Gulfstream? Wouldn't you have to work there like a year before you even broke even on the deal?

 

[cmrflyer]

No because we get paid about the same to fly the 70 as everyone else. Yes it's an override, but in the end it equates to the same thing.

Republic - SkyWest 70 seat FO pay:
1- $23 $22
2- $31 $37
3- $36 $39
4- $37 $40
5- $37 $41
6- $37 $43
7- $37 $44

Numbers are from APC. So it looks like except for year 1, OO FO's take home more than RAH FO's.

The only person, except you, who is immpressed by those number is a bankruptcy judge. You are pathetic, the pay rates we got back in '01 were way better than that crap.
I believe your contracts was one of the ones shown to the judge to show just how "over paid" we were.
Thanks retard for being so proud of your whorish ways.

 

[MusicMan]

No because we get paid about the same to fly the 70 as everyone else. Yes it's an override, but in the end it equates to the same thing.

Republic - SkyWest 70 seat FO pay:
1- $23 $22
2- $31 $37
3- $36 $39
4- $37 $40
5- $37 $41
6- $37 $43
7- $37 $44

Numbers are from APC. So it looks like except for year 1, OO FO's take home more than RAH FO's.

You need a serious education on overrides. "In the end it pays the same thing!" Give me a break. Do you know the difference between overrides and hourly rates? By the way, those 70 seat pay rates are atrocious. Both are below the 50 seat rates at several of the regionals and I'm not talking freakin' overrides. Straight pay. Take a minute to educate yourself on contracts and airline pay verbiage. You sound a little naive.

 

[PCL_128]

Yet SKYW 50 seat rates are still higher than Republic 70 seat rates and they're ALPO right?

ALPO? Really clever there, sport. In any case, NO, RAH is not ALPA. They are Teamsters.

 

[Flyerdan]

It seems to me that UAL pilots, FA's, gate agents, and CS agents are doing enough to kill the Guppy's themselves. I've lost count of the number of people who have been treated badly by UAL employees and have sworn to never fly on them again.

If that hostile UAL pilot wants to try to blame others for their problems I can only hope that he will direct his anger at someone who is capable of standing up for themselves.

 

[Caspian27]

Cmrflyer & musicman,

Thanks for the kind words. Especially you cmrflyer. I always appreciate personal insults about things I had no control over.

I never said I was impressed by the numbers...I was trying to prove the point that the pay (however crappy) is more for the 700 than for the 200. Is it the best in the world? No. My only point was that the compensation is higher for flying a 700.

 

[relief tube]

Uh are you sure you didn't confuse this one with Republic. They are the ones with the sticker because of the 170. I've heard pilots there tell me that it is a "mainline" aircraft.

nope BS on it being called that- you heard wrong- the sunglasses permanently affixed to your head mighta started messing with your "hearing".

i think the sticker existed in some form one single time. have never seen it.

 

[propilot1983]

Great a furlough and a felony assult charge..

If he uses his fists, it would only be a misdemeaner assault. Pick up an object, and then it can be become a felony.