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flynryan15 said:
I know of a real quality aviator that was hired at Skybus. A guy from my own company after he got fired several times and ALPA couldn't get him his job back anymore Skybus hired him. I would love to have heard him justify his antics that cost him his job, but yet he still passed the interview. I saw him in Columbus with my own 2 eyes.
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PM me his name, or it didn't happen... I knew just about everyone at SX, and the vast majority were from the majors... (not some ERJ outfit). The few that came from the commuters were usually Check Airman or former ACA Airbus guys... So how is this disaster to aviation that we hired?
 
Everyone, now wait just a minute!!! You forgot one important thing...

Mesa Sucks!!!

Ok, now back to our original discussion...
 
FMS-Speed said:
PM me his name, or it didn't happen... I knew just about everyone at SX, and the vast majority were from the majors... (not some ERJ outfit). The few that came from the commuters were usually Check Airman or former ACA Airbus guys... So how is this disaster to aviation that we hired?
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I knew of two guys who went from the CRJ right seat to SkyBus.
Guess you didn't know everyone.
 
WayBack said:
I knew of two guys who went from the CRJ right seat to SkyBus.
Guess you didn't know everyone.
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I know of one, who's now at Emirates.. forgot about him, he was a top notch guy with a lot of experience before Comair. But most of the guys fit the description I gave... For example, my class was.. JetBlue, CMR FO, CMR Check Airman, Mesa Check Airman, USAF C130 IP, Kitty Hawk 2 CA's and 1 FO, Gemini Air Cargo IRO, USAir CA ret, and Spirit FO (Former CP at a large 121 ACMI).. I might be forgetting someone, but that's not the same type of guy Colgan is hiring.. The prior class (ahead of us) had 3 former DAL CA's and two USAir CA's.. again, not lightweights.
 
FMS-Speed said:
I know of one, who's now at Emirates.. forgot about him, he was a top notch guy with a lot of experience before Comair. But most of the guys fit the description I gave... For example, my class was.. JetBlue, CMR FO, CMR Check Airman, Mesa Check Airman, USAF C130 IP, Kitty Hawk 2 CA's and 1 FO, Gemini Air Cargo IRO, USAir CA ret, and Spirit FO (Former CP at a large 121 ACMI).. I might be forgetting someone, but that's not the same type of guy Colgan is hiring.. The prior class (ahead of us) had 3 former DAL CA's and two USAir CA's.. again, not lightweights.
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I am calling bull******************** on this there is not one reason a Delta or a USAIR Captain would leave and go to Skybus! As far as giving you his name, it is not going to happen I have a little more class then to forward a guys name to some pathological liar on a internet message board.
 
flynryan15 said:
I am calling bull******************** on this there is not one reason a Delta or a USAIR Captain would leave and go to Skybus! As far as giving you his name, it is not going to happen I have a little more class then to forward a guys name to some pathological liar on a internet message board.
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One of the DAL guys is now the assistant CP at Republic in CMH, you don't believe me... call him and ask him. The Director of Training, who is now at Watanyia Airways in Kuwait was a former DAL 767 CA, took early retirement, the last guy I flew a month long line was an MD80 CA in CVG.. you don't believe me, too bad, it's a fact.
 
We have former Delta Captains as well as NW Captains where I work. It is called early retirement or buyouts. So no he is telling the truth.
 
WTF?

Someone deleted my posts? Out of all the bashing that goes on this board I get singled out for speaking my my against a lame hypocrite like FMS-Speed?

I would lose count on how many threads get derailed by putting morons like FMS-Speed in their place and you go after me?

I would like a reason why Mr Mod. This is total BS!!
 
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Jetpipeovht said:
WTF?

Someone deleted my posts? Out of all the bashing that goes on this board I get singled out for speaking my my against a lame hypocrite like FMS-Speed?

I would lose count on how many threads get derailed by putting morons like FMS-Speed in their place and you go after me?

I would like a reason why Mr Mod. This is total BS!!
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you don't get it? do you? look up "Ad Hominem"
 
Can y'all just play nice? All I'm askin is that you don't personally attack each other.
 
WSurf said:
Very good Post.......
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Thanks. That's high praise coming from you.

It is a shame that all of this will be a distant memory a year from now. Once the next "up" cycle begins I fear that the lessons we should have learned will be lost in the scramble to get "there" faster, cheaper and with less effort.

I truly weep for what I consider to be a dying craft. Technology has a long way to go before proper airmanship is truly obsolete. How many will we kill next time?
 
TWA said:
Can y'all just play nice? All I'm askin is that you don't personally attack each other.
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Are you kidding me? There was nothing personal. I was attacking his hypocrisy and baseless rhetoric along his professional betrayal of his own peers. Besides, that is all you had to say even if I was.

Oh well FMS you know what you have done. It is on your conscience not mine.
 
FMS-Speed said:
I got this form the other forum but it is interesting.

The last 3 fatal airline crashes Were Colgan, Comair 5191, and Pinnacle 3701
Colgans Captain = Gulfstream
Comair's Captain = Gulfstream
Both Pinnacle Pilots = Gulfstream


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This is the dumbest logic I ever seen. First off, if what you are suggesting is correct how come all the Captains that upgraded at Gulfstream and also went through the program as first officers have not had a major accident?

How come the pilots that you used in your example "waited" until they got to another airline to have an accident?

If the training program is so insufficient at Gulfstream why hasn't there been a major accident at airline thus far?

If the training so bad at Gulfstream how come the Feds haven't shut the airline down?

How come the "superior" training programs at these at these other airlines did not bring these individuals "up to speed" or "weed them out?"

There is a severe double standard amongst GIA haters. If there is an accident and a pilot went through Gulfstream every bitter flight instructor wants to come on this board and highlight how this individual went to Gulfstream.

Where did those Fedex pilots who crashed the MD-11 in China train?
How about the training of Continental crew of the 737 that went off the runway? I bet you didn't check
How about the first officer who over corrected with rudder at American Airlines? That's what I thought

Stop trying to demonize an airline or pilots because you don't like them.

Please someone make an attempt to answer these questions. At least humor me.
 
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TWA said:
Can y'all just play nice? All I'm askin is that you don't personally attack each other.
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As the founder of the thread, I agree... lock it, delete it for all I care.

Also, just realized how to use the ignore feature on this new version of the forums.
 
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I have flown with two GIA grads in the corporate world and they were both excellent pilots. TEX and ASE ain't for the faint of heart in the winter boys.
 
Boy this is classic Flightinfo.com. This thread has drifted from Gulfstream to Mesa sucks to my crappy regional is better than your crappy airline. Classic entertainment!
 

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