GM Flight Dept?

[Sparse]

GM isn't going anywhere. The flight department is a very necessary part of their business-those planes fly their asses off.

I hope you are correct, but if they don't fix their business model, they will die. I presonally have sworn off American made cars. I have been burned by all three of them and it will never happen again. I just had to spend 500 dollars getting a power window fixed on a 2004 F-150 that has 44,000 miles. What really made me angry was when the service writer told me it was a common failure. I told her, it was costing Ford a customer for life.

 

[siucavflight]

As for security, it's still a very good job (even without the perks it used to have) and GM isn't going anywhere. The flight department is a very necessary part of their business-those planes fly their asses off.

I would not be so certain of that.

 

[o2bflyn]

I hear they are not selling any jets. They are simply turning 2 leased jets in. From what I read they were planning on doing this a while ago anyway. Either way they are down 2 jets so I don't think they will be hiring.

Someone asked before about Pentastar. That FBO was original started under that name by Chrysler. not sure if they atill own them or not, but I don't think they have anything to do with GM.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Why be ashamed of the benefits of aircraft usage?

While I know nothing of the operation - most public company aircraft are offices, they use them to have meetings (try that in coach, Mr Senator) they use them to sleep through the night to wake up and be productive for an Intl meeting/deal, and to assure that they will actually get there (Not get delayed at Heathrow) etc...etc...

No need to lease, no need to hide...These are not caviar barges - they are extensions of offices.

NOW - where those 3 faulted this week - they didn't have an explanation for the angry public. They should have been briefed on this. They could have thrown this right back at those morons. It was a childish attack from left field and it worked. Shame on the Big 3 for not being prepared.

Next time as a congressman how he got to the meeting that day? Not by train I bet.

 

[LJ45]

Why be ashamed of the benefits of aircraft usage?

While I know nothing of the operation - most public company aircraft are offices, they use them to have meetings (try that in coach, Mr Senator) they use them to sleep through the night to wake up and be productive for an Intl meeting/deal, and to assure that they will actually get there (Not get delayed at Heathrow) etc...etc...

No need to lease, no need to hide...These are not caviar barges - they are extensions of offices.

NOW - where those 3 faulted this week - they didn't have an explanation for the angry public. They should have been briefed on this. They could have thrown this right back at those morons. It was a childish attack from left field and it worked. Shame on the Big 3 for not being prepared.

Next time as a congressman how he got to the meeting that day? Not by train I bet.

Where is Howard Hughes when you need him :beer:

 

[SSDD]

The government should not be in the business of bailing out private companies. Not the airlines. Not the banks. And not the automakers. Its up to the companies to make the necessary changes to stay in business.

I remember when Chrysler got bailed out the first time. Since then its been merged, bought, sold, and still nobody wants to buy their cars. Its time to say sink or swim on your own dime.

 

[Buckeye]

Edsel Ford currently owns Penastar Aviation

 

[Gulfstream 200]

The government should not be in the business of bailing out private companies. Not the airlines. Not the banks. And not the automakers. Its up to the companies to make the necessary changes to stay in business.

I remember when Chrysler got bailed out the first time. Since then its been merged, bought, sold, and still nobody wants to buy their cars. Its time to say sink or swim on your own dime.

While off the cuff many (I) agree...

but I think the reality now is to avoid a 30's depression scenario. Banks and the Big 3 failing could do just that.

Its far beyond helping an airline after 9/11 or helping Chrysler through a rough time....wasn't Chryslers entire bailout 1.5Bil?

 

[SSDD]

We've become too comfortable with the concept that nobody should fail. Not in little league, not in school, and now apparently, not in business either.

What was that line from Red October? "Every now and then a little revolution is not a bad thing."

I think we're due for one in this country.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

We've become too comfortable with the concept that nobody should fail. Not in little league, not in school, and now apparently, not in business either.

What was that line from Red October? "Every now and then a little revolution is not a bad thing."

I think we're due for one in this country.

nobody fail huh?

off the top of my head in 30 seconds, just this year:

Lehman
Bear Stearns
Wachovia
Merrill
Circuit City
Linens and Things

CNBC reported this morning that 1,000,000 jobs have been lost this year.

Heres a short list of larger firms:

The Bank of New York Mellon [BK 25.84 1.48 (+6.08%) ] said Thursday it will cut its
worldwide work force by 4 percent, or about 1,800 jobs, blaming the weak global
economy.


JPMorgan Chase [JPM 22.72 -0.66 (-2.82%) ] is cutting 10 percent of its investment banking staff —about 3,000 jobs—as the economic slowdown starts to bite into its earnings, confirming earlier reports.

The Associated Press plans to cut up to 10 percent of its workforce in 2009—roughly 400 employees—

Boeing [B 9.80 0.47 (+5.04%) ] announced plans on November 19 to cut approximately 800 positions at a Wichita, Kansas plant,

Citigroup [C 3.77 -0.94 (-19.96%) ] is cutting as many as 53,000 jobs in its investment bank and other divisions throughout the world. (Read more here).

Sun Microsystems [JAVA 3.02 -0.07 (-2.27%) ] said it plans to cut up to 6,000 jobs, or 18 percent of its global work force, as sales of high-end servers have collapsed.

BT Group [BT 18.72 0.76 (+4.23%) ], the UK telecommunications firm, will cut 10,000 jobs, or 6.3% of its global work force, in the first quarter of 2009.

Applied Materials [AMAT 8.35 0.21 (+2.58%) ], the semiconductor-and-solar panel equipment maker, is slashing 1,800 jobs, the company annonnced after reporting four-quarter profits fell 45% on weak sales due to declining corporate technology spending.

Circuit City [CC 0.215 -0.02 (-8.51%) ], which is filing for bankruptcy, is laying off about 17 percent of its domestic work force, which could affect up to 7,300 people.

Deutsche Post [AG 23.90 3.32 (+16.13%) ], German mail and logistics company Deutsche Post will cut 9,500 jobs at its DHL unit in the U.S. and eliminate U.S.-only domestic express shipping.The new round of cuts, which will see the shedding of 7,000 in a single town, Wilmington, Ohio (pop. 12,00) that has been the hub of DHL's five-year effort to take on US rivals UPS and FedEx on their home turf, are on top of another 5,400 job cuts it already announced.

Nortel Networks [NT 0.42 -0.01 (-2.33%) ] plans to lay off 1,300 workers, nearly 5 percent of its workforce.

Motorola [MOT 3.28 0.13 (+4.13%) ] posted a third-quarter net loss and revenue fell a steeper-than-expected 15 percent, as a result the telecom equipment maker will slash 3,000 jobs in a cost-cutting effort.

Ford [F 1.43 0.04 (+2.88%) ] said it would cut 2,260 white-collar workers in North America.

General Motors [GM 3.06 0.18 (+6.25%) ], which previously said it would reduce salaried employment costs by 20 percent, will also cut another 1,900 salaried jobs on top of the 5,100 announced last summer. GM also said it is reducing some employee benefits, including 401 k contributions and other programs.

Fidelity Investments will start laying off about 2.9 percent of its global workforce later this month—affecting 1,288 workers in the first round from a workforce of 44,4000—and plans to trim more workers early next year.

Toy maker Mattel Inc. [MAT 11.75 0.33 (+2.89%) ] says it is cutting some 1,000 positions worldwide in response to the ongoing economic downturn. The El Segundo-based company says the positions amount to 3 percent of the company's worldwide workforce and will reduce its professional and management staff by 8 percent. Cuts will come from a combination of layoffs, attrition and retirements, the company said.

Goldman Sachs [GS 53.31 1.31 (+2.52%) ] notified roughly 3,200 employees this month that they have been laid off, part of previously reported plans to slash 10 percent of the firm's global work force. The move comes after laying off hundreds of support staff and junior bankers in June. The company had a record 32,569 employees in August and the latest cuts reduce headcount to the lowest since 2006.

At Merrill Lynch [MER 8.34 0.38 (+4.77%) ], 10,000 employees could be jettisoned as a result of the merger with Bank of America [BAC 11.47 0.22 (+1.96%) ].

Bank of America, the second-largest U.S. bank by assets said in June it expected to eliminate about 7,500 jobs over the next two years after the completion of its acquisition of Countrywide Financial Corp, the largest U.S. mortgage lender.

Barclay's [BCS 8.18 0.81 (+10.99%) ] plans to cut about 3,000 jobs as it brings Lehman Brothers into its fold. Lehman, which filed for bankruptcy last month, had 26,000 employees. About 10,000 have been given jobs until at least the end of the year.
The lack of merger and acquisitions and initial public offerings is hitting

Morgan Stanley [MS 10.05 0.85 (+9.23%) ] hard. The U.S. investment bank said on July 31 it was finished cutting jobs, having slashed 4,800 jobs in the past year but some analysts expect Morgan could lay off 15 percent of its work force.

Wachovia [WB 4.13 0.03 (+0.73%) ], said in August it would cut 6,950 jobs, 600 more than it had previously disclosed.

UBS [UBS 9.45 1.01 (+11.97%) ] said at the beginning of October it would cut another 2,000 jobs at its troubled investment bank. The job losses come on top of 7,000 jobs already cut, about 4,100 of which were in investment banking positions cut in the past year. The bank will have reduced its headcount by more than 10 percent to under 80,000.

Credit Suisse [CSGKF 20.77 1.77 (+9.32%) ] has axed more than 1,500 jobs, the majority in investment banking in the last year since 2007, and on Tuesday it said it would cut 500 more jobs.

HSBC [HBCYF 9.0 -0.90 (-9.09%) ] said late last month it was cutting 1,100 jobs in its investment banking operation, or 4 percent of the workforce.
Commerzbank [CBK.DE Unavailable () ] announced its plan to cut 9,000 jobs in the wake of its agreement to purchase Dresdner Bank from

Allianz [AZ 5.96 0.28 (+4.93%) ]. About 2,500 jobs of the 9,000 cuts will be outside Germany.

UniCredit [UNCFF 1.95 --- UNCH ], Europe's fourth-largest bank said in June it would shed 9,000 posts out of 100,000 in Germany, Austria and its domestic base Italy.

First American [FAF 15.19 0.08 (+0.53%) ], the largest U.S. title insurer, by reported revenue said last month it cut 1,250 jobs in the third quarter, bringing the total for the year to about 2,950, or 8 percent of its workforce. It has cut roughly 6,500 jobs since the first quarter of 2007.

National City Corp [FAF 15.19 0.08 (+0.53%) ] said this month it planned to reduce 4,000 jobs, or 14 percent of its workforce, over three years to save $500 million to $600 million annually by 2011.

Computer maker Dell [DELL 9.30 -0.51 (-5.2%) ], which is nearing the end of nearly 9,000 job cuts, has asked employees to consider taking up to five days of unpaid vacation, is offering voluntary severance packages and has instituted a global hiring freeze.

Nissan [NSANF 3.83 --- UNCH ] announced layoffs affecting 2,500 salaried jobs overseas and 1,000 temporary posts in Japan amid plans to cut vehicle productions globally.

Privately held Chrysler said it was cutting about 5,000 salaried employees. Earlier in the month, it said was slashing 1,825 jobs as the result of plant closings.

Money manager Janus Capital [JNS 6.45 0.64 (+11%) ] said it would cut 9 percent of its staff a day after rival AllianceBernstein said it would make unprecedented job cuts.

Xerox [XRX 5.25 -0.18 (-3.31%) ] announced job cuts of 5 percent, or 3,000 positions, due to a "tough business environment."

Hewlett-Packard [HPQ 34.64 2.81 (+8.83%) ] is laying off more than 24,00 employees due to weak technology spending and the integration of tech-services giant Electronic Data Systems, which H-P acquired earlier this year for $13.25 billion.
Mining equipment maker

Terex [TEX 10.06 0.73 (+7.82%) ] said it would lay off hundreds of workers and suspend its share buyback program to preserve cash.

Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide [HOT 12.20 0.76 (+6.64%) ] said it plans to cut an unspecified number of jobs to offset slowing travel demand.

American Century says is plans to cut 270 jobs this week, reducing workforce by 17 percent. They insist that no portfolio managers are to be affected by the impending job cuts.

Merck [MRK 24.40 0.84 (+3.57%) ] announced plans to cut 12 percent of its workforce, citing a need to change its business model in order to survive.

Fidelity National Financial [FNF 7.39 0.35 (+4.97%) ], which controls one of the largest U.S. title insurers, announced 1,000 job cuts, office closings, a 10 percent pay cut and a 50 percent dividend cut, which comes on top of 1,600 job eliminations in the April-to-June period.

Biotechnology company Maxygen [MAXY 4.79 0.13 (+2.79%) ] plans to cut nearly 30 percent of its workforce and explore strategic options due to the current financial environment

Popular Inc. [BPOP 5.76 0.36 (+6.67%) ], parent of Banco Popular, is cutting 600 positions and more than a quarter of its branches in the United States.



BTW - Im all up for the revolt -