GM Flight Dept?

[SansPlane]

NOW - where those 3 faulted this week - they didn't have an explanation for the angry public. They should have been briefed on this.

[FONT=&quot]These three are leaders of businesses that employ close to 1/2 million employees. They are experienced executives of businesses “possibly” worth billions of dollars and you think they should have been briefed on why they use a corporate jet? If they can’t answer these “hardball” questions, then perhaps they need to reassinged to the factory floor. Surely G200 you must be kidding…[/FONT]

 

[Gulfstream 200]

[FONT=&quot]These three are leaders of businesses that employ close to 1/2 million employees. They are experienced executives of businesses “possibly” worth billions of dollars and you think they should have been briefed on why they use a corporate jet? If they can’t answer these “hardball” questions, then perhaps they need to reassinged to the factory floor. Surely G200 you must be kidding…[/FONT]

Why would I be kidding?....

They have many other things on their agenda, is it not uncommon to be briefed on what to expect at each and every meeting...expecially when being thrown in front of a group of ultra-liberal congressmen while you are asking for money.

Since this happened, every news site has thrown corporate aviation onto the front page every day. Not good for our business at all

The whole world is watching, be prepared. These fools sat there like deer in headlights.

I agree, its not a hard answer - just one they obviously never thought about...and thats too bad.

 

[SSDD]

Pretty long list of failures. I'm not familiar with a lot of them, but I will say that the ones I'm familiar with were mismanaged to an almost criminal degree. They should fail.

As far as the auto makers, let them file ch11. If they can reorganize and make the require changes, then good for them. If not then, there will always be a market for good vehicles.

Its funny how when this stuff starts to hit close to home, we get defensive. You appear to be a corporate pilot, so you want to defend the use of airplanes in business. As I said in my original response, I don't think government should have rescued airlines either. So my feelings on this are that as long as they're profitable, then what they do with that money is between them and the shareholders, but when they come asking for a government hand out...

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Its funny how when this stuff starts to hit close to home, we get defensive. You appear to be a corporate pilot, so you want to defend the use of airplanes in business.

You do know that you are posting on a corporate aviation board?....of course Im defensive about Corporate Aircraft usage - its how most of us here make our living!

 

[SSDD]

The fact that you are a corporate pilot shouldn't keep you from telling right from wrong. I do know the value of corporate aviation, as I have done some over the years. But again, my point is that government should not be in the business of bailing our private corporations.

 

[LJ45]

I know if they paid me $21 million per year, I would have the answers to everything. Surely I could tell them how corporate aviation is used in our company and the cost vs. benefits of such.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

The fact that you are a corporate pilot shouldn't keep you from telling right from wrong. I do know the value of corporate aviation, as I have done some over the years. But again, my point is that government should not be in the business of bailing our private corporations.

I don't know of many private corporations looking for bailouts.

They are public, F,GM each have the ability to rock the economy far harder by going to zero than by getting some help. I think everyone is equally frustrated with it. This if far from just affecting corporate pilots, its hitting everyone.

Anyhow, its a pointless arguement - the big 3 will get gvt help - this is a guarantee with the existing congress and incoming administration.

Interesting times. Hopefully we are around the bottom now.

 

[Freight Dog]

Interesting times. Hopefully we are around the bottom now.

Fat chance there... All these layoffs you just pointed out above were just announced fairly recently.

Wait till they actually happen... We're nowhere near the bottom, my friend. This is gonna suck BIG TIME!

 

[54fighting]

Let's just play the devil's advocate. Let's say that we are at a 180 from where we are right now, record profits everywhere. The big 3 are summoned to the hill for some meetings.....does the fact that they flew in on their corporate jets get the soundbite? I don't think so. This was done purely as grandstanding and get a favorable public reaction. Looking at these Senators, $hit, they have an approval rating of like 5%. It cracked me up watching them turn all bada$$ and everything. Where they hell were they when this financial mess was going down.

Right now having a corporate flight department is the least of their problems.

 

[LegacyDriver]

I heard they are hiring? Anybody know anything?

Thanks

FLAME BAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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