GJ Hiring Captains and fo's

[h25b]

At my current airline, i tell the dudes i fly with i was from colgan. Then i usually have to follow that up with answers about what aircraft they flew, where, and for who. They often have never heard of the place at all. A lot of the older dudes flying the 737s and 757's of today have no clue what is going on in the regionals. When i would jumpseat on USair those dudes didn't even know what we flew a lot of the time....and we were a usairways feeder! These *************************s people will get jobs down the road with little trouble if they have the PIC time.

I remember having to explain who CHQ was every time I had to ask for a jumpseat. The people saying how these GJ guys' careers are done are just pathetic. Almost as if they say it enough it will somehow become true.

 

[BRA]

I remember having to explain who CHQ was every time I had to ask for a jumpseat. The people saying how these GJ guys' careers are done are just pathetic. Almost as if they say it enough it will somehow become true.

I am not some gray haired senior airline pilot either, (only 26) but i do believe from experience i can see how somethings will work out. These dudes won't have a whole lot of trouble if they get the turbine PIC time. Not what everyone want to hear i know. Also people with the "for SWA" 737 types do get jobs elsewhere, the gulfstream PFT people do get jobs elsewhere, people without the 4 year degrees do get hired at places, people with DUI's are working in the industry, and people that think all the TWA and USAir furloughs are all flooding the market looking for jobs are wrong too.

 

[Cokie907]

Perhaps, but times are different now. Prior to 9/11, pilots may have had their heads stuck in the sand (along with the entire dot com worshipping public incidentally) but since that time, people have awakened. The rise of the low cost carriers, facilitated by the fiscal chaos after 9/11, taught everyone out there a hard lesson. WAKE THE F' UP!

Now with the industry in a hell bent race to the bottom. Who is eating whose lunch is the subject in every crew lounge and every cockpit. Maybe I'm crazy but that is what I've been seeing over the past few years. After watching the legacy titans fall flat on their faces, peope are scared and NOTHING wakes people up quicker than fear, particularly the fear of loss.

Add to this the proliferation of instant information via Algore's internet (ha ha) and you have the best informed pilot population in the history of our industry. I've been out of work 4 months and I'm sick of hearing about HoJets!

 

[AWACoff]

I ran into a Mesa captain a few days ago as our crews (his and mine) showed up for first flight of the day out of somewhere. He asked how things were going...yada, yada, yada, I ask, "so who are you with, PSA, Piedmont...?". First words out of his mouth are "Don't hate me, I'm with Mesa". Why is it that he said that...is it because they know they are whores? I just found it strange. When somebody asks me who I work for, I just say Air Wisconsin. I guess people have awareness nowadays.

PS. All US Airways Express carriers have the same hat hardware (as far as I know) so you don't know who you're talking to until they tell you.

 

[DoinTime]

I remember having to explain who CHQ was every time I had to ask for a jumpseat. The people saying how these GJ guys' careers are done are just pathetic. Almost as if they say it enough it will somehow become true.

The crusty silver haired captains who manage to pull themselves off of the golf course 10 days a month to go to work aren't the ones who decide if you get hired or not. The pilot recruitment department does the hiring and you can bet for damn sure they know exactly who every carrier is and what they represent.

The problem with going to work for GøJets isn't that you consciously made the decision to work for a nonunion shop. The problem is that people who go to GøJets have demonstrated that they are willing to stab others in the back to get ahead. This willingness is not a good trait for line pilots at any airline in any situation. Any hiring department that can afford to be selective in their hiring will most likely skip over applicants such as these.

 

[h25b]

The problem is that people who go to GøJets have demonstrated that they are willing to stab others in the back to get ahead. This willingness is not a good trait for line pilots at any airline in any situation.

Very subjective arguement in light of the the recent NMB decision. That is your opinion, and you're entitled to it. However, the NMB disagreed and before too long GJ will be a union shop and a couple years from now nobody doing any of the hiring will give a squat...

 

[cargojunkie]

The union days are dead a scab list means nothing.. this is a business...thats why your so called good regionals are all going under....I worked for air willy and a mainline capt and fo had no idea... if I or the chq guy trying for the seat worked for united express.

 

[cocknbull]

50/70 seat first year captain:
Pinnacle/Mesa $55
Eagle $62
ASA $60
Chaut/Skwest $56
************************* $55

Mesa's payrate is due to Freedom
Chautauqua's payrate is due to Republic
Skywest is non union

See a trend. Think about it. The only reason to have seperate lists is to let the ************************* bottum feeders undercut us, that is it plane and simple.

 

[AviatorTx]

Can anyone PM me the latest GJ pilots list....I think mine may be a little out of date.

PLEASE pass that list around XJT along with the way to tell the difference between a GJ ID badge and a Trans States ID badge. I know there is a difference.

GJ scum is not welcome on this jumpseat.

 

[millhouse21]

I hate those Go Jet Fuckers as much as the next guy. However, since the NMB has said they are a separate company, it must be true. So, if you want to go work there, have a ball. If it matters to you, you have my permission. Just don't come to me later with some bullshit story about having to feed your cat, you needed new implants, or something like that. You went there becasue it was the only place that would hire your dumb ass. Have fun.
I know all those fuckers have been on here talking about how great it is there and that the company is treating them great but you might want to consider one thing; what do you think it will be like once the honeymoon is over? If you need a hint, take a look at how they are treating their current employees at Trans States and remember that you won't even have a union. Oh yeah, I remember that teamsters will be there soon and will have a MUCH better contract. OK, maybe. Or maybe not.

I personally have stopped caring whether you are dumb enough to go there or not. This is just a friendly reminder of what you can expect working for the shittiest company in the industry.

 

[DoinTime]

Very subjective arguement in light of the the recent NMB decision. That is your opinion, and you're entitled to it. However, the NMB disagreed and before too long GJ will be a union shop and a couple years from now nobody doing any of the hiring will give a squat...

The NMB was not ruling on if GøJets was formed for the sole purpose of circumventing the TSA Union contracts. The NMB ruled on if the airlines were being run separately.

I would hope all the scum-sucking GøJet pilots out there aren't taking comfort in this ruling. Your just as much of a dirtbag now as you were before the NMB offered their opinion.

 

[TSA145]

The NMB was not ruling on if GøJets was formed for the sole purpose of circumventing the TSA Union contracts. The NMB ruled on if the airlines were being run separately.

I would hope all the scum-sucking GøJet pilots out there aren't taking comfort in this ruling. Your just as much of a dirtbag now as you were before the NMB offered their opinion.

Excellent post. I love it when the (republican, anti-labor president appointed NMB) says "companies have two different websites"..... ...

 

[cocknbull]

This is a copy of a PM I received from CargoJunkie

hey I dont care about a contract or a union or any of that so Frick you. The industry is a business get used to it there is more to come.

Your perfect for *************************s becuase you like to take it without any lube.

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

People don't ask my wife if she's married unless they are interested in dating her.

Ha, Screw Blowjets.

 

[PCL_128]

Again, nevermind....

I just love it when a 1200 TT regional jet F/O with probably less than 1 year of airline seniority threatens another pilot's career...

And sadly, the "1200 TT regional jet F/O" knows what he's talking about a lot more than you do. The people that do the hiring at most companies aren't the typical clueless, crusty, silver-haired, line Captains. They are extremely well-informed and most of them certainly do check SCAB lists before hiring someone. There's a reason that the only SCABs at the majors are ones that slipped through the cracks from mergers that the pilot hiring boards couldn't stop. The only exception is JetBlue, which has taken a few SCABs and a couple of Freedumb scumbags. Other than JetBlue and a few supplemental cargo companies, these HoJet scumbags are pretty much stuck at HoJets because of their backstabbing actions. Enjoy flying those 70-seaters for 50-seat rates for the rest of your careers, scumbags.