Gary Kelly's ATN Comments at Message To The Field

[flynvixen]

Bobby,

Wall Street and GK want the merger. That's all that matters. SWAPA will be a speed bump in the road to mergerville. Arbitration WILL happen if ALPA and SWAPA don't come up with an agreement on their own, and if it doesn't look fair, AT will go for the arbitration. Tell your sources at the soup kitchen they are WRONG....

Could not agree more. GK and SWAPA will keep the citrus RJ coral up and staffed with citrus RJ guys and if need we can keep the Boeing guys there for ever

 

[27 driver]

Let it go, Kharma... he's just trying to provoke you. There's only about 3 of us who don't have him on our ignore list anymore; I can't because of my Mod status, but I suggest you join the rest of those who do.

Same old FI...

Make it 2. He has just been added!

 

[27 driver]

I'm a WN pilot and even I think Bob is an idiot. There is a line between being an ***hole and flame baiting. Bob aint got it figured out.

***hole line - "I'm hearing Gary may never combine the lists."
or
Flamebait line - "Back of the line bitches!"

See?
Gup

Thanks Gup. We fully expect you to fight the good fight. We just don't think people need to be an *********************************** about it. Thanks for keeping it real.

 

[PapaWoody]

Thanks Gup. We fully expect you to fight the good fight. We just don't think people need to be an *********************************** about it. Thanks for keeping it real.

+1 from the SWA side.

PW

 

[dicko]

keep the citrus RJ coral up and staffed

I completely agree. I love Coral.

"Coral" is a form of marine life and "Vixen" is defined as a malicious women with a fierce temper.

Vixen. You are a barely functioning illiterate. I don't believe you're a SWA pilot. Welcome to the ignore list.

This statement has absolutely no bearing on SWA pilots, AirTran pilots or a SLI.

Cheers.

 

[Lear70]

I'm a WN pilot and even I think Bob is an idiot. There is a line between being an ***hole and flame baiting. Bob aint got it figured out.

***hole line - "I'm hearing Gary may never combine the lists."
or
Flamebait line - "Back of the line bitches!"

See?
Gup

LOLOL... OK, that's funny.

 

[Lear70]

Thanks Gup. We fully expect you to fight the good fight. We just don't think people need to be an *********************************** about it. Thanks for keeping it real.

Eggzactly right. :beer:

 

[flynvixen]

I completely agree. I love Coral.

"Coral" is a form of marine life and "Vixen" is defined as a malicious women with a fierce temper.

Vixen. You are a barely functioning illiterate. I don't believe you're a SWA pilot. Welcome to the ignore list.

This statement has absolutely no bearing on SWA pilots, AirTran pilots or a SLI.

Cheers.

Hey Dicko
cant take the truth so you point out spelling errors to win your flawed argument, and if that wont work you hit ignore ???

Bring a real fight and defend your position......you cant so we will see you in the corral is that better for you....how ever you spell it you need to get used to being in it, you citrus vato's will be there for a long time until you are sent packing with your RJ's when Guadalupe airlines is done with you.

Remember Southwest is not buying Air Tran Guadalupe holding is so get ready to hang out inside the wire for a long time. i hope it takes 20 years for you guys to understand a real deal and agree not to take or demand what is not yours.

Cheers vato's

 

[CaptAntoineMack]

Instead of debating the issue, you always seem to go after the number of posts I have, which really shows you CANNOT debate. I have been on this website for more than 10 years. I enjoy it. You cannot take that away from me. I enjoy aviation debate, and you can't seem to handle it. I have been through an SLI, and I have watched the other most recent one closely. You don't enjoy my comments because you know there could be a hint of truth in there, and that doesn't agree with your SWA Upgrade plan or your own life plans. Sorry, things change, and this merger will take you off your intended course. It just will. Stop fighting it, it will happen with or without you. Enjoy the SLI. Bye now!


Bye Bye--General Lee

Paint chips?

So where is the points of debate in this or the previous post?

I like this forum for information and some opinion. Getting into the debate with some anonymous cowards is not my idea of a good time. But party on dude.

You lived through an SLI. We get that. No two SLIs will ever be the same. You don't get that.

 

[flynvixen]

Paint chips?
No two SLIs will ever be the same. You don't get that.

You got that one right.

Never has a acquisition been this good a deal for the airline being acquired !!! so with that being said the citrus vato's will get what they are getting and we get the seniority. What else do we get in this deal if we dont get seniority?? tell me what do we get......on line non rev to ATL ?? I dont give a rats ------ about ATL or anything or anywhere citrus flys.

In the end the arbitrator will see that giving the citrus vato's our seniority along with everything else they are getting is a windfall for them and will be struck down.

Guadalupe holdings is going to make an offer that the citrus vato's cant refuse I am sure. It may take some time but they will see the light someday and will want out of the RJ corral.

Cheers Vato's

 

[livintheredream]

Sigh....

 

[General Lee]

Thanks Gup. We fully expect you to fight the good fight. We just don't think people need to be an *********************************** about it. Thanks for keeping it real.

There is no need for your groups to fight, especially on these boards. Your lawyers will give their cases to the arbitrators, and fight for each group as hard as they can. In the end, everyone can blame THE ARBITRATORS, not each other. That is the best part of arbitration, you can blame someone for any perceived woes. Then, you get back in the cockpit and fly with each other. In the meantime, your company gets stronger hopefully, and you move on. You pay lawyers to fight for you, and they will. Good luck.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Paint chips?

So where is the points of debate in this or the previous post?

I like this forum for information and some opinion. Getting into the debate with some anonymous cowards is not my idea of a good time. But party on dude.

You lived through an SLI. We get that. No two SLIs will ever be the same. You don't get that.

Ummm, riiiight. You might be the one on paint chips. Sure, no two SLIs are alike, but arbitrators DO LOOK AT RECENT ONES and find similarities, and precedent. That ain't Obama, that is something you might want to look up. And the USAir/AWA relationship and size is fairly close to your ratio with AT, and since both of you are profitable LCCs, with like sized aircraft, you won't be getting even close to the staple that you want. It just won't happen. Time for you to quit sniffing glue, too. Speaking of sniffing, I sniff fear in your posts. You probably aren't a Capt, rather a junior FO at SWA. That explains it.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[CaptAntoineMack]

Ummm, riiiight. You might be the one on paint chips. Sure, no two SLIs are alike, but arbitrators DO LOOK AT RECENT ONES and find similarities, and precedent. That ain't Obama, that is something you might want to look up. And the USAir/AWA relationship and size is fairly close to your ratio with AT, and since both of you are profitable LCCs, with like sized aircraft, you won't be getting even close to the staple that you want. It just won't happen. Time for you to quit sniffing glue, too. Speaking of sniffing, I sniff fear in your posts. You probably aren't a Capt, rather a junior FO at SWA. That explains it.


Bye Bye--General Lee

How on earth did you get your job. Don't forget to check the box on your next medical about mental illness to "yes". You are scary neurotic.

 

[PapaWoody]

Ummm, riiiight. You might be the one on paint chips. Sure, no two SLIs are alike, but arbitrators DO LOOK AT RECENT ONES and find similarities, and precedent. That ain't Obama, that is something you might want to look up. And the USAir/AWA relationship and size is fairly close to your ratio with AT, and since both of you are profitable LCCs, with like sized aircraft, you won't be getting even close to the staple that you want. It just won't happen. Time for you to quit sniffing glue, too. Speaking of sniffing, I sniff fear in your posts. You probably aren't a Capt, rather a junior FO at SWA. That explains it.


Bye Bye--General Lee

It's funny how all you guys that like to point to "recent precedent" always just happen to overlook Chautaqua/Shuttle America, probably because it doesn't fit into you mantra that "relative seniority is the law". It was, however, arbitrated by the NMB according to Allegheney/Mohawk guidelines and the contractual disparities (which were a major issue to the arbitrator) were even less than they are in this situation. As someone said, no two situations are exactly the same, but lets not always disregard the "precedents" that don't support your argument, shall we.

Fraternally,
PapaWoody

 

[ivauir]

17 pages of this?

This was a great place to work. I wonder if it will be in 2 years?

 

[humveedriver]

I bet it will be. I think there is alot at stake here. People need to vent thier concerns and frustrations. Some of the biggest pot stirrers on these threads are folks who don't work for either company and are mad because they missed the boat, got rejected or want to see one or both airlines fail.

 

[Bob Dylan]

AirTran pilots just hit the mega-lotto. Excuse me if I don't feel bad for them and their massive new pay raises and job security.

I also honestly hope that they don't screw it up for themselves. Unfortunately though, I think ALPA is all out scorched earth because they are losing another group of pilots, and ultimately it would benefit ALPA if the SWA/AirTran deal wrecked the company. They will try to make that happen.

JMO. AirTran pilots should climb onboard SWA any way or any how, or they can listen to ALPA while it tries to kill SWA and benefit other ALPA airlines.

SWA isn't going to allow that to happen though, and the losers will be the AirTran pilots who will never go over to SWA and will dies on the Guadaloupe Holding vine.

There will be no arbitration from the people who explained it to me. No way, no how.

Good luck Trannies. Not trying to pisssss you off.

 

[jester757]

AirTran pilots just hit the mega-lotto. Excuse me if I don't feel bad for them and their massive new pay raises and job security.

I also honestly hope that they don't screw it up for themselves. Unfortunately though, I think ALPA is all out scorched earth because they are losing another group of pilots, and ultimately it would benefit ALPA if the SWA/AirTran deal wrecked the company. They will try to make that happen.

JMO. AirTran pilots should climb onboard SWA any way or any how, or they can listen to ALPA while it tries to kill SWA and benefit other ALPA airlines.

SWA isn't going to allow that to happen though, and the losers will be the AirTran pilots who will never go over to SWA and will dies on the Guadaloupe Holding vine.

There will be no arbitration from the people who explained it to me. No way, no how.

Good luck Trannies. Not trying to pisssss you off.

Perhaps the best post on this thread...IMHO

 

[kwick]

AirTran pilots just hit the mega-lotto. Excuse me if I don't feel bad for them and their massive new pay raises and job security.

I also honestly hope that they don't screw it up for themselves. Unfortunately though, I think ALPA is all out scorched earth because they are losing another group of pilots, and ultimately it would benefit ALPA if the SWA/AirTran deal wrecked the company. They will try to make that happen.

JMO. AirTran pilots should climb onboard SWA any way or any how, or they can listen to ALPA while it tries to kill SWA and benefit other ALPA airlines.

SWA isn't going to allow that to happen though, and the losers will be the AirTran pilots who will never go over to SWA and will dies on the Guadaloupe Holding vine.

There will be no arbitration from the people who explained it to me. No way, no how.

Good luck Trannies. Not trying to pisssss you off.

The arbitrators will decide the SLI because the Southworst guys want to
steal the Airtran Captain seats and and negotiating with them is a waste
of time.

This could be the downfall of SW, and Gary Kelly might end up in jail!

Not trying to piss you rednecks off, but that's what I've heard.